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post #91 of 108
I've really been having a bad string of games. Touch is off, I'm losing the ball underneath me. Just not good stuff at the moment. It's really starting to psyche me out. I can go out and play well in pickup, but the minute we throw on pennies for a school intramural game, I'm totally absent. Ugh.
post #92 of 108
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

I've really been having a bad string of games. Touch is off, I'm losing the ball underneath me. Just not good stuff at the moment. It's really starting to psyche me out. I can go out and play well in pickup, but the minute we throw on pennies for a school intramural game, I'm totally absent. Ugh.

I used to get stretches like that in basketball. The best thing was, if possible, to take a few games off. Actually play a little less. Helped me out.
post #93 of 108
Sometimes , it is better to have a bit of a rest and come back refreshed...
post #94 of 108
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Played two games back-to-back yesterday at keep. The first game was the game of my life. I'm still pretty quick, so I gamble a lot at keeper, and yesterday it seemed like every gamble paid off. My teammates all actually applauded when I came off the field. It was awesome. I worked my ass off for it (I weighed five-and-a-half pounds less Sunday night than I did Sunday morning, meaning I sweated over half-a-gallon) and had a ton of ridiculous saves. Second game was pretty good, but I was also gassed, so I missed a save I should've gotten, and we lost by one.

Anyway, one of the things I thought was weird is that one of the guys said something like "it's obvious you've never watched soccer before, and I mean that in a good way. You haven't picked up any of the bad showboating techniques. Like you actually try to catch balls and not punch them out."

This doesn't make sense to me. Is it the norm for keepers to try to punch balls instead of catch them? Do they do that because the velocity of the shot is presumably higher in the televised leagues and they don't want to break their hands or do they actually do that because it's cool or something? The only thing I can compare this to is most basketball players' lack of focus on the mid-range shot because it isn't as glamorous as a dunk/layup or or three.
post #95 of 108
I don't know what he's talking about. I don't think most pro keepers are showboating when they punch, either on crosses or saves. It's hard to catch a ball in heavy traffic on a cross with big strong bodies all around, and pro shots are coming in hard and swerving a lot. Trying to catch too often leads to soft rebounds that end up in the back of the net, so controlling the deflection to make sure it goes out, or punching far away to safety, is the safest route unless the keeper is 100% sure he can catch it.

That said, I have seen amateur keepers showboat a bit, so maybe that's what he was talking about. Where I see the pros maybe hamming it up a bit is when, even on a ball hit right over their heads, they'll jump up and tip over but then instead of coming down on their feet they'll pull their legs up and writhe around in the air and come down hard on the ground when, you know, dude, you just could have landed on your feet.
post #96 of 108
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Played two games back-to-back yesterday at keep. The first game was the game of my life. I'm still pretty quick, so I gamble a lot at keeper, and yesterday it seemed like every gamble paid off. My teammates all actually applauded when I came off the field. It was awesome. I worked my ass off for it (I weighed five-and-a-half pounds less Sunday night than I did Sunday morning, meaning I sweated over half-a-gallon) and had a ton of ridiculous saves. Second game was pretty good, but I was also gassed, so I missed a save I should've gotten, and we lost by one.
Anyway, one of the things I thought was weird is that one of the guys said something like "it's obvious you've never watched soccer before, and I mean that in a good way. You haven't picked up any of the bad showboating techniques. Like you actually try to catch balls and not punch them out."
This doesn't make sense to me. Is it the norm for keepers to try to punch balls instead of catch them? Do they do that because the velocity of the shot is presumably higher in the televised leagues and they don't want to break their hands or do they actually do that because it's cool or something? The only thing I can compare this to is most basketball players' lack of focus on the mid-range shot because it isn't as glamorous as a dunk/layup or or three.

When i used to play goalkeeper in the eighties ,we were trained to catch or try to block the ball as much as we could...

Pushing it away was seen as a liability..

Now goalkeepers tend to push the ball away from the goal and punch everything instead of simply catching it..

I couldn't believe Buffon ,a great goalkeeper, punching everything on corners instead of grabbing it ..

The same for shots on target, the keepers push it away instead of stopping it..

It seems to be the new trend due to modern floating balls also allowing more powerful shots..
post #97 of 108
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Red carded last night. We were down 2-1 when it happened. We won 6-3. I need to get red carded more. Interfering with a goal scoring opportunity. I basically took out a whiny ass striker and then told him "get up, bitch" when he laid around flopping.
post #98 of 108
The white man's rage is strong in you.
post #99 of 108
I haven't been playing in a few years, but I can't stand fuckers who just get way too riled up about amateur soccer, and there are a lot of them.

Outdoor seems to be worse than indoor. People really get fucked up in outdoor.

A few people called me a "hothead" in indoor, including people on my team, but curiously, while I mix it up with guys I think are dicks, I never, ever, ever ended up in the penalty box. In about 5 years of playing. Quite often, the guys I was fucking with did. It's a fine art, treading teh line.
post #100 of 108
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

5. Co-ed leagues have some fine-ass women. Seriously, it affects my play because I'm trying not to check them too hard. Damn, I'd've given up basketball a long, long time ago if I'd realized this shit.

I am glad I joined a co-ed league.

First game is Saturday.

Played as a kid but I'm a little "upset" I'm returning. Messed up my back really badly had to stop rugby and now I'm playing soccer.
post #101 of 108
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

I am glad I joined a co-ed league.

First game is Saturday.

Played as a kid but I'm a little "upset" I'm returning. Messed up my back really badly had to stop rugby and now I'm playing soccer.

What did you do to your back?

I'm in four leagues now, two six v. six and two full field (with one of each co-ed).

Play keeper fulltime, really enjoy it in six on six, but it sucks from a mental standpoint. I fucking hate that ritual of getting up, dusting off the dirt, and fishing the ball out of the back of the net. Hate it.

Love the womenz though.
post #102 of 108
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What did you do to your back?

It pops a lot and I am literally unable to stand straight for a sustained length of time.

So its a Catholic sports league and we have to decide on a name.

A few I've come up with:

Vatican Led and Goal Bound
The New Popes
The New Pope's Favorites (Would be best if they haven't selected a new pope by game 1)
Jesus' Mom Loves Us
Fishers of Goals
The Papist Force
Holy Goalers

Thoughts?
post #103 of 108
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

It pops a lot and I am literally unable to stand straight for a sustained length of time.

So its a Catholic sports league and we have to decide on a name.

A few I've come up with:

Vatican Led and Goal Bound
The New Popes
The New Pope's Favorites (Would be best if they haven't selected a new pope by game 1)
Jesus' Mom Loves Us
Fishers of Goals
The Papist Force
Holy Goalers

Thoughts?

The Dead Rabbits. Both an homage to the Catholic immigrants of the past and abortion.
post #104 of 108
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This thread is weird. It’s virtually all CSBs, but I like it (probably because most of the CSBs are mine).

Really played well last night. Had two games back-to-back last night on a turf field, both six on six.

One was a recreational co-ed league that usually kicks my ass because I have to play the ball a lot from the goalkeeper position and then run back to get in goal when the ball is almost inevitably turned over in the front court.

Next game was a competitive men’s league playoff game. These games are always intense as hell for me because I’ve only been playing soccer a couple of years and it seems like two-thirds of the league played collegiate soccer. So I’m continually on edge because I have to compensate for my lack of training/technique by constantly hustling and always being focused.

It was a chippy, physical game. We got two yellow cards and basically played down a man for half of the game. In 6 v. 6, that’s a shitload of work for the goalkeeper. I was having to run sideline to sideline a lot to screen out on long passes (I always get nervous trying to possess in those cases, partly because these guys’ technical foot skills are so much better than mine). Only one other guy on the team speaks English, so I had to yell out defensive positions in Spanish which keeps me from really being specific or prompt (aside from “MEDIO!”, I can scream that out like a mofo). However, we somehow won 5-3 and advanced. One of their goals came on a play where I swear the scorer’s cleats came within an inch of my face. Got some payback for that later though, which is always fun.

Damn, rereading all that shows I didn’t grow up at all with soccer. “Front court”? I dunno what to call it, the part of the field in front of the other team’s goal.

Anyway, I’m thinking about getting some of those ridiculous goalie pants. The ref had to stop the game twice last night because my knees were bleeding so badly. And I feel like my knees and the outside of my left shin are perpetually skinned because I play four to five nights a week. However, I can’t imagine wearing pants during sports and I’d feel silly. And summer has already started and I don’t want to wear pants in 100 degree heat. So I might just tape up my knees.
post #105 of 108
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

Played two games back-to-back yesterday at keep. The first game was the game of my life. I'm still pretty quick, so I gamble a lot at keeper, and yesterday it seemed like every gamble paid off. My teammates all actually applauded when I came off the field. It was awesome. I worked my ass off for it (I weighed five-and-a-half pounds less Sunday night than I did Sunday morning, meaning I sweated over half-a-gallon) and had a ton of ridiculous saves. Second game was pretty good, but I was also gassed, so I missed a save I should've gotten, and we lost by one.

Anyway, one of the things I thought was weird is that one of the guys said something like "it's obvious you've never watched soccer before, and I mean that in a good way. You haven't picked up any of the bad showboating techniques. Like you actually try to catch balls and not punch them out."

This doesn't make sense to me. Is it the norm for keepers to try to punch balls instead of catch them? Do they do that because the velocity of the shot is presumably higher in the televised leagues and they don't want to break their hands or do they actually do that because it's cool or something? The only thing I can compare this to is most basketball players' lack of focus on the mid-range shot because it isn't as glamorous as a dunk/layup or or three.

Punching the ball is more of an emergency measure. Catching the ball is best, obviously, since you can then distribute, and you don't risk punching it back to an opponent's feet. I think the main reason some keepers, even professionals, punch the ball too much is not because they are hot-dogging, it's more that they can't catch the ball that well. American keepers seem to catch the ball better, probably because we grow up playing games that require eye-to-hand coordination, baseball, basketball, etc. This might be why Americans do well at the keeper position internationally. And because we grow up playing other games, not exclusively soccer, it's also why we don't do as well internationally in the field positions.
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