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post #46 of 56
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I think that may have been written prior to 2007, when the USDA did officially define grass fed as:
etc. etc.

they certainly did. the point the site was making is the same: the difference is between grain-finished and grass-finished. All cattle are fed on grass or forage for most of their lives.
post #47 of 56
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post
I usually buy organic, but my doing so is somewhat incidental. My favorite produce vendors and the farms I buy meat and eggs from put out organic products. I don't go out of my way to buy crap stamped with the word "organic" as certified by either the USDA or CCOF. Some things I buy such as wild mushrooms or wild caught fish cannot, I believe be certified as such.

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so what do I do? in most cases, i buy on flavor. great flavor in produce only comes from careful farming and careful farmers do not overuse agricultural chemicals. in some cases, this means buying from organic farmers or the organic section, but most often not.

This and this. I guess in some sense I would prefer to use all organic, to please my hippie parents, but the cost usually is prohibitive for me. That, and the fact that there are a lot of farmers and producers that are 100% organic (or very close) but don't spend the money to get the labeling means that I don't live and die by the organic label. I try to spend my money wisely and buy the best product that I can with what little of it I have. If that means that I get organic, all the better, and if it means that I get non-organic, then that's no worry for me. As long as what I'm getting is already delicious and can be made more delicious by yours truly, I'm happy.
post #48 of 56
I grew up in the age of pesticide overuse. I'm afraid if I buy organic ... I'll suffer withdrawal.
post #49 of 56
I have seen too many diseases and sicknesses around me. If I can do even a bit of preventative measure, I will. I try to buy organics. I will go out of my way to buy it. There are just too many chemicals that are sprayed on our foods these days. It isn't all that more expensive, so to me it's still worth it.
post #50 of 56
It depends. If something says "Organic" I do a label check to see if it tells me more about why it's "organic" or "all natural". If I can't discern any reason why it might be different from a standard item, then I don't buy it.
post #51 of 56
I buy things at Trader Joe's, so probably.
post #52 of 56
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Originally Posted by celery View Post
It depends. If something says "Organic" I do a label check to see if it tells me more about why it's "organic" or "all natural". If I can't discern any reason why it might be different from a standard item, then I don't buy it.

Agree. I have found some local farmers in my area that I know don't use anything on their hobby farms. Personally, I would rather help out he little farmer than the commercial guys. But like you said, give me a reason to buy it and I will buy it.
post #53 of 56
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Originally Posted by mm84321 View Post
Just to add to your fourth point: Farmers can practice sustainability, and use little to no chemical fertilizers on their crops, yet still not be defined "organic". The whole process of USDA "organic" certification can be rather costly, and just because a farmer does not have this recognition, does not mean his farming practice and quality control is inferior to the farmer who has been granted the title. The key is to find a reliable farmer, and just ask him how he grows his crops. There are quite a few farms around me that aren't technically considered organic, however, they probably use less pesticides than that Earthbound Farm "organic" stuff you find at the supermarket. Also, if you're concerned about sustainability, buying a plastic container full of organic spinach that had to travel at a constant 37° F from California to Connecticut, from harvest to sale, is sort of a contradiction to the whole term itself.
A farmer that sells produce at my local farmers market calls his farm "ornery" instead of "organic." He cannot call his produce "organic" because he refuses to pay for organic certification, which he believes calls for standards that have been compromised by agribusiness, large food companies and their elected supporters. His growing process, which he says surpasses more permissive official standards, is free of chemicals and pesticides. There are plenty of holes and dirt in the leaves of his greens but the vitality and taste of his produce, for me, is superb. I buy "organic," especially fruits and vegetables in season.
post #54 of 56
I was in the situation of having to purchase organic milk a few weeks back because the only store I had time to go to on my way home was an all-organic store. Although I was pissed at paying 50% more than non-organic milk, there was actually a VERY noticeable taste difference, in a good way; a definite grassy/farmy taste and much more pronounced cream flavor. For produce, I don't care if they use pesticides and I've never really found a consistent difference in taste.... I can get really terrible organic produce and really delicious non-organic.

But milk ... I may actually start buying that organic milk all the time.
post #55 of 56
No, I refuse to pay $6/lb for a fucking bell pepper at a supermarket. I buy what looks good that day but I really don't like to be gouged.

Organic means absolutely nothing. It's about as useful a piece of information as a processed food sold with the prefix or suffix of "light/diet".
post #56 of 56
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No, I refuse to pay $6/lb for a fucking bell pepper at a supermarket. I buy what looks good that day but I really don't like to be gouged.

Organic means absolutely nothing. It's about as useful a piece of information as a processed food sold with the prefix or suffix of "light/diet".

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