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post #16 of 33
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Thank you all for your responses.

I'm not really concerned with what others think about my footwear I just like a clean and classy look. I'm simply not a fan of dusty, dull, creased shoes. Since my KC's have never really stood the test of time (except for one pair that I still wear) I wanted something that would not burn out the soles as quickly and crease.

Also, I'm just not a fan of loafers. I find them to be more of a seasoned gentleman's shoe. I'll stay away from the Wall Street norms and stick with my preferences.

So, it looks like AEs are the way to go and that's what I'll do. I will invest in a pair of Cardovans in the future.

Thanks again.
post #17 of 33
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So, it looks like AEs are the way to go and that's what I'll do. I will invest in a pair of Cardovans in the future.

I think you're making the right call.

Were you still considering the first option, I think the cordovan is worth the premium. It appears that cordovan captoe (Made in USA) is Alden; presuming that is the case, I have a pair just like them that have lasted me for over 15 years (infrequent wear) and at least two re-soles and still look great. Also, between the two options, I prefer the look of the Made in USA shoes to that of the Made in England ones.
post #18 of 33
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Originally Posted by Reevolving View Post
Black captoes are basically invisible.
A total waste of money above a pair of $100 KC's.
No one knows the difference, including 1/2 of SF.

Get wingtips if you want some flair.

Fuck you're an idiot.
post #19 of 33
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post
Fuck you're an idiot.

+10000, does KC even make captoes?
post #20 of 33
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Originally Posted by SSer View Post
... Also, I'm just not a fan of loafers. I find them to be more of a seasoned gentleman's shoe. I'll stay away from the Wall Street norms and stick with my preferences.

So, it looks like AEs are the way to go and that's what I'll do. I will invest in a pair of Cardovans in the future.

Thanks again.

Call me 'seasoned' again, youngblood . Buy the Park Avenues now, then take a look around at what people your level and your manager's level are wearing, and figure it out from there. Good luck.
post #21 of 33
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post
Fuck you're an idiot.

agreed. I think i have about a half dozen black captoes...and they all look completely different to me.
post #22 of 33
I bet he's still oblivious on the wingtips vs longwings matter
post #23 of 33
Black Park Avenues and Burgundy Park Avenues. Go with that. If you feel pressure to add a third after a couple of weeks, you'll have had a chance to look around to see what others are wearing and will have developed a sense of whether you like that sort of thing. You'll also have decided whether Shoe Number Three should be brown, black, or (if you ask me) another burgundy. Many great vintage wingtips available on ebay.
post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by KObalto View Post
Shells are very durable, #8 looks great, and goes with a lot of different stuff. If you throw in some black PAs and another pair of brown bals, you will have a decent starting rotation (hey it's baseball season!). OTOH, when I was walking around Wall Street a few months ago, black horse-bit loafers seemed to reign supreme. Not a great look with a suit IMO.

x2

I have some burgundy PA's that I picked up for $150 new, they look great with everything, and they look conservative enough to go almost anywhere. I haven't worn by black PA's since.... well I own them at least
post #25 of 33
I was hoping this would be a thread about hookers wearing shell.
post #26 of 33
Premium black shoes might possibly be the single biggest waste of a limited budget. Don't waste your money on expensive black shoes. Not if you're trying to look stylish. Black shoes are great if you want to be invisible. Otherwise, stick with other colors and patterns.
post #27 of 33
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Originally Posted by Reevolving View Post
Premium black shoes might possibly be the single biggest waste of a limited budget.
Don't waste your money on expensive black shoes.
Not if you're trying to look stylish.
Black shoes are great if you want to be invisible.
Otherwise, stick with other colors and patterns.



Black shoes are great, rest of the colours are optional...
post #28 of 33
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Originally Posted by Allez Allez View Post
I wouldn't spend $500 on shoes if you are going in somewhere as a summer intern/analyst. You will just come across as a jackass who doesn't know his place.

Personally, I would avoid brown shoes until you see others wearing it in the office. I know its supposed to be acceptable in the office, but its a no go where I work. No one is going to break your balls for wearing black shoes.

please, no one is gonna care if he's wearing brown shoes, black shoes or damn near no shoes.

All he is to them is a whipping boy for pitchbooks, and endless excel spreadsheets. If he ever leaves his desk, it will be so dark out that no one would know the difference between $50 shoes from target and $1000 Edward Greens, nor would they care.
post #29 of 33
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Black shoes are great, rest of the colours are optional...

+1, Testify
post #30 of 33
From my frenzy of shoe buying (I blame SF), I think there actually is a noticeable difference between cheap black shoes (i.e. Kenneth Cole, Cole Haan) and decent quality ones (i.e. AE, Alden, C&J) for calf leather.

I'll admit that I also bought some blacks in cordovan, and have decided that calf > cordovan for black. Black cordovan looks plasticky and fades at the creases and looks weird to me. My conclusion is to always buy in shades of brown for cordovan, although I know not everyone agrees.

If I were to do it all over and just starting a shoe collection on a budget I would probably get:

1. AE black park aves
2. AE burgundy park aves
3. AE black calf strands
4. RL brown cordovan darltons

That's all you'll need for the next 5 years, especially if you topy and take care of them. The nice thing is you can wear the strands w/ denim and not look too out of place.
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