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Gaziano & Girling Appreciation & Shoe Appreciation Thread (including reviews, purchases, pictures)

luk-cha

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MT - hoves looks great as do the kensingtons, nice haul i reckon! :)
 

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G&G 11.5 is shorter than EG 11.5 & JL 11.5. The Wigmore boots fit me after a couple of break-in seasons on the carpet. My previous experience with G&G was with their Hayes model which is also built on the TG73 last. The Hayes fit great out of the box and thats what I was expecting from the Wigmores. However the Hayes felt really right and because its a boot, is slightly more difficult to fit into. I compared outsole measurements from the Hayes with the Wigmore and they are indeed the same size. For whatever reason, the boots were just really tight out of the box. And I was able to confirm this by inserting the TG73 lasted shoe trees (saved from the Hayes) into the boots and it took considerable effort getting them in on the first try.
Fortunately, it worked out. Looking forward to wearing them for a long time.


that is all that matters. enjoy!!

Sorry mang, I have the shoes, but no pix yet. Tomorrow evening. Hope you can last that long :(


i can hold out another day, but thats about it.

inb4sexjoak
 
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really love that Arran.
hrm. curious.
 

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G&G 11.5 is shorter than EG 11.5 & JL 11.5. The Wigmore boots fit me after a couple of break-in seasons on the carpet. My previous experience with G&G was with their Hayes model which is also built on the TG73 last. The Hayes fit great out of the box and thats what I was expecting from the Wigmores. However the Hayes felt really right and because its a boot, is slightly more difficult to fit into. I compared outsole measurements from the Hayes with the Wigmore and they are indeed the same size. For whatever reason, the boots were just really tight out of the box. And I was able to confirm this by inserting the TG73 lasted shoe trees (saved from the Hayes) into the boots and it took considerable effort getting them in on the first try. Fortunately, it worked out. Looking forward to wearing them for a long time.

Glad it worked out.
 

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Originally Posted by luk-cha
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next time you better ask monsieur delos. the welt is a veritable disaster.

sorry.​
next time you better ask monsieur delos. the welt is a veritable disaster. sorry.
lt much more hard for inexperience man to do this because no pen and wheeling marks to guide the stitches. lt much easier to stitch when guide is here (see picture): Tony/Dean have no written guide so it hard to stitch even unless very very experience man in this stitch.​
 
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lt much more hard for inexperience man to do this because no pen and wheeling marks to guide the stitches.
lt much easier to stitch when guide is here (see picture):

Tony/Dean have no written guide so it hard to stitch even unless very very experience man in this stitch.


that's what i said. actually, i know some. not delos...
 

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lt much more hard for inexperience man to do this because no pen and wheeling marks to guide the stitches.
lt much easier to stitch when guide is here
Tony/Dean have no written guide so it hard to stitch even unless very very experience man in this stitch.


I have to disagree somewhat.

Once upon a time...and still, in some places... all hand stitching, regardless of the spi or the location on the shoe or boot was taught and done by eye. Stitching 16 per inch (or even 40 per inch) was never done with a "guide." It was wholly dependent on the maker's ability to "see." No stitch markers, no rulers, no pens. In fact, training the eye to "see" is one of the critical skills a maker must learn and master.

Why this pair of shoes falls so short of expectations is beyond me. Tony is very experienced. Maybe this was an apprentice.

That said, I, personally, don't care for Goiser stitching. It is ostentatious and obtrusive. It's not really even functional. It just screams "look at me!" And that detracts from leather and the shoe as a whole, if only because it forces the viewer to separate the shoe into components. In my opinion, it is very like tool marks left on a stone sculpture--it draws attention to the maker rather than the product. And that seems indicative of a certain insecurity from my POV. Might as well add a Rendenbach outsole and a Nike-esque swash on the side.
 

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. Might as well add a Rendenbach outsole and a Nike-esque swash on the side.


Perhaps in neon orange. I'm sure Tony would be happy to put his name on those! :D
 

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I have to disagree somewhat.
Once upon a time...and still, in some places... all hand stitching, regardless of the spi or the location on the shoe or boot was taught and done by eye. Stitching 16 per inch (or even 40 per inch) was never done with a "guide." It was wholly dependent on the maker's ability to "see." No stitch markers, no rulers, no pens. In fact, training the eye to "see" is one of the critical skills a maker must learn and master.
Why this pair of shoes falls so short of expectations is beyond me. Tony is very experienced. Maybe this was an apprentice.

Some maker born with natural talent and very very good and close to perfect,
but only some.



That said, I, personally, don't care for Goiser stitching. It is ostentatious and obtrusive. It's not really even functional. It just screams "look at me!" And that detracts from leather and the shoe as a whole, if only because it forces the viewer to separate the shoe into components. In my opinion, it is very like tool marks left on a stone sculpture--it draws attention to the maker rather than the product. And that seems indicative of a certain insecurity from my POV. Might as well add a Rendenbach outsole and a Nike-esque swash on the side.
:slapfight: :deadhorse:

Goiser/bentivegna/norvegese is very very good.
Me love the heavy stitch very very much.
Me like the goiser (reverse welt stitch) mixed with bentivegna the best (5 row of stitches. it on Dinkelacker shoes). :slayer:

One stitch go into feather,
two stitch go into side of insole using hook awl (it rare) and take 4 year to learn the skill,
one stitch go through welt to midsole,
one stitch go through welt to midsole to outsole.
Dinkelaker maker very very skilled man and well paid.
 
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One stitch go into feather,
two stitch go into side of insole using hook awl (it rare) and take 4 year to learn the skill,
one stitch go through welt to midsole,
one stitch go through welt to midsole to outsole.
Dinkelaker maker very very skilled man and well paid.

They still look horrible though don't they.
 

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