Gaziano & Girling Appreciation & Shoe Appreciation Thread (including reviews, purchases, pictures)

Frank the sheep · Nov 30, 2012

mktitsworth said:
This is the point where someone repeats that Dean and Tony have both said that there was an intentional decision to try and make all of the lasts fit the same so that, if the 11 works well for you in MH71, an 11 should also work well for you in the TG73.
This was my experience with the Deco last and TG73.

They don´t fit the same for me. I wear:

GG06 and MH71 = UK7.5E
DG70 and MH73 = UK8E

In this sizes the shoes fit the same, nice and snug.

in stitches · Nov 30, 2012

and the plot thickens. :plain:

i will clearly have to try them both on. no other option. i just hope they do complimentary shipping, as it was their f*ck up, not mine.

in stitches · Nov 30, 2012

aaaaaaaaaaaaand now they tell me they do not have the 11UK anymore. bunch of ******* useless idiot morons. i am so reminded why i deal with people like nick and not with large department stores who employ morons and have the stupidest policies in the universe. i am so frustrated. i wanna make them let me exchange for a non sale shoe at the same price, not that that will happen. i may just keep these and hope for the best that they dont get too lose. FML.

/1stworldproblems

Jhors2 · Nov 30, 2012

in stitches said:
aaaaaaaaaaaaand now they tell me they do not have the 11UK anymore. bunch of ******* useless idiot morons. i am so reminded why i deal with people like nick and not with large department stores who employ morons and have the stupidest policies in the universe. i am so frustrated. i wanna make them let me exchange for a non sale shoe at the same price, not that that will happen. i may just keep these and hope for the best that they dont get too lose. FML.
/1stworldproblems

Sell as BNWT and get your money back maybe? I would hate to own such a great shoe that doesn't fit, it would bother me to no end.

in stitches · Nov 30, 2012

Jhors2 said:
Sell as BNWT and get your money back maybe? I would hate to own such a great shoe that doesn't fit, it would bother me to no end.

Not a bad idea. They fit ok as is, im worried that after a few wears they will be too lose.

Gdot · Nov 30, 2012

in stitches said:
aaaaaaaaaaaaand now they tell me they do not have the 11UK anymore. bunch of ******* useless idiot morons. i am so reminded why i deal with people like nick and not with large department stores who employ morons and have the stupidest policies in the universe. i am so frustrated. i wanna make them let me exchange for a non sale shoe at the same price, not that that will happen. i may just keep these and hope for the best that they dont get too lose. FML.
/1stworldproblems

They will be too loose after a few wears if they are the least bit roomy now.

Do not do this - either return for refund or sell. G&Gs that are the least bit roomy when new will quickly become sloppy. As the tannage is nice and soft and will stretch.

This is what 1/2 too large turns into crease wise.

in stitches · Nov 30, 2012

I want to kill somebody

Frank the sheep · Nov 30, 2012

in stitches said:
aaaaaaaaaaaaand now they tell me they do not have the 11UK anymore. bunch of ******* useless idiot morons. i am so reminded why i deal with people like nick and not with large department stores who employ morons and have the stupidest policies in the universe. i am so frustrated. i wanna make them let me exchange for a non sale shoe at the same price, not that that will happen. i may just keep these and hope for the best that they dont get too lose. FML.
/1stworldproblems

Agree. They all use the word service but most don´t know the meaning of it.

I wanted to buy the Gable but they added 282 dollar VAT and DUTY to the order + 52 dollars in shipping. Why in the world would they add VAT and DUTY to someone in sweden, that seams to be "my" customs job?

in stitches · Nov 30, 2012

Ugh. It seems that big box retailers suck even at the higher-end level at times. Smallbatch vendors FTW!

Rodney · Nov 30, 2012

Gdot said:
They will be too loose after a few wears if they are the least bit roomy now.
Do not do this - either return for refund or sell. G&Gs that are the least bit roomy when new will quickly become sloppy. As the tannage is nice and soft and will stretch.
This is what 1/2 too large turns into crease wise.

Agreed, sell or return them or it will frustate you even more. Anyway, thanks for sharing, i will stick to bespoke england...

in stitches · Nov 30, 2012

Smart decision. And it is worth every cent. That's what I get from making an impulse buy just cause there was a sale.

I hope this will work out for me somehow.

Hampton · Nov 30, 2012

in stitches said:
I want to kill somebody

chogall · Nov 30, 2012

in stitches said:
to answer the questions, they are an E width, and in the TG73.
so, i am fuming mad. i ordered a UK11 and they sent me a UK11.5. took me 20 minutes to explain to the moron lady on the phone why its wrong even though it says US12 on the stupid barneys sticker. i need a UK 11, as its a UK shoe. they are now holding a UK11 for me to exchange if i want.
question. i wear a GG11, but i have the MH71. these are the TG73. i tried em on, and they are in fact a bit loose, but not crazy lose. i wonder if an 11 will be to tight in the 73. I guess i can have them send the 11 and try both on and decide. but would it be possible that the 11.5 will actually be better in the 73 even though i wear an 11 in the 71?
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks!

in stitches said:
and the plot thickens.

i will clearly have to try them both on. no other option. i just hope they do complimentary shipping, as it was their f*ck up, not mine.

All G&G shoes shares the same "fit" up to the metatarsal area and the 'fit' changes thereafter; the difference becomes most pronounced at the toe box.

GG06 and MH71 have wider toe box, so it fits 'normal'. TG73/DG70/Deco have narrow toe box, so it will be very tight at the toe area if GG06/MH71 fits you fine; order a width up if needed (not length up).

Also, as with any other brand, cap toes will be harder to fit than wingtip/wholecut/etc due to the cap stitch and stiffener.

p.s., if GG06/MH71 fits you fine, TG73/DG70 will most likely to be too narrow at the toe box, and vice versa. There's no reason to own both the wider toe box and the narrow toe box lasts since the fit will be exclusive at the same size/width.

Frank the sheep · Nov 30, 2012

chogall said:
All G&G shoes shares the same "fit" up to the metatarsal area and the 'fit' changes thereafter; the difference becomes most pronounced at the toe box.

GG06 and MH71 have wider toe box, so it fits 'normal'. TG73/DG70/Deco have narrow toe box, so it will be very tight at the toe area if GG06/MH71 fits you fine; order a width up if needed (not length up).

Also, as with any other brand, cap toes will be harder to fit than wingtip/wholecut/etc due to the cap stitch and stiffener.

p.s., if GG06/MH71 fits you fine, TG73/DG70 will most likely to be too narrow at the toe box, and vice versa. There's no reason to own both the wider toe box and the narrow toe box lasts since the fit will be exclusive at the same size/width.

Very good. This info would have been to a lot of help when i started to look into GG and the info i got was: All last fit the same.

I´ve tried DG70 and TG73 in 7.5F but since i´m a E the shoe don´t fit that good. As i wrote before, 8E in those lasts fit the same as 7.5E in GG06 and MH71...on my feets anyway

Michael Ay329 · Nov 30, 2012

mktitsworth said:
This is the point where someone repeats that Dean and Tony have both said that there was an intentional decision to try and make all of the lasts fit the same so that, if the 11 works well for you in MH71, an 11 should also work well for you in the TG73.
This was my experience with the Deco last and TG73.

This is not accurate as to my experience with the Deco and TG73 lasts.

The Deco and KN14 lasts fit different than the 4 others. Tony and Dean both told me (based on the measurements of my feet) to go 1/2 size down on the KN14.

I found the Deco last to be too narrow for my feet in the toe box area (and Tony confirmed this as its design attribute)...so I use the TG73 on my Deco designs.

Its the 4 others which fit the same in the toe box area. So I agree with you that an 11 in the MH71, will work well for you too in TG73.

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