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Please repost the kudu Arran fleet!

The Rosewood Kudu Arran's paired with the cuffed grey wool trousers forced me to reevaluate my life.
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Please repost the kudu Arran fleet!

The Rosewood Kudu Arran's paired with the cuffed grey wool trousers forced me to reevaluate my life.

ūüėā t'was a moment burned into Mr. Venneri's mind for ever more!

GG's kudu just makes any of their models over-the-top awesome for some reason.
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Hi guys.

 

Please could some Deco owners help me out here? I say Deco owners because I have not encountered this issue on my normal leather or Dainite soles though of course this may just be luck so I would be grateful to anybody who can offer any assistance.

 

I wore my Holdens today and the edge of the sole at the toe cap has started to delaminate and is now peeling back. Now, I understood all G&G shoes were closed channel so it seems odd to me that a thin veneer of leather would be glued over the sole concealing this workmanship (the leather that is peeling back is too thin to be channelled). Until today I naturally assumed the sole was stained black.

 

Surely this is not a sign of quality or to be expected at this price-point?

 

This thin veneer of leather surely serves no purpose other than to conceal and is in no way preferable to staining the leather black?

 

Please see the photos - the last one is to illustrate the lack of wear.

 

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Hi guys.

Please could some Deco owners help me out here? I say Deco owners because I have not encountered this issue on my normal leather or Dainite soles though of course this may just be luck so I would be grateful to anybody who can offer any assistance.

I wore my Holdens today and the edge of the sole at the toe cap has started to delaminate and is now peeling back. Now, I understood all G&G shoes were closed channel so it seems odd to me that a thin veneer of leather would be glued over the sole concealing this workmanship (the leather that is peeling back is too thin to be channelled). Until today I naturally assumed the sole was stained black.

Surely this is not a sign of quality or to be expected at this price-point?

This thin veneer of leather surely serves no purpose other than to conceal and is in no way preferable to staining the leather black?

Please see the photos - the last one is to illustrate the lack of wear.






Steven non of my deco have had that problem man best bet would be take it to GG store and they will take care of you. Since you are London based it would be best bet.
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Steven non of my deco have had that problem man best bet would be take it to GG store and they will take care of you. Since you are London based it would be best bet.


‚ÄčThanks. I am not London based but I am going down next week¬†so this is definitely an option.

 

I must admit I am very impatient and am tempted to phone the factory tomorrow but was curious to see what other customers' experiences have been before doing so.

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‚ÄčThanks. I am not London based but I am going down next week¬†so this is definitely an option.

I must admit I am very impatient and am tempted to phone the factory tomorrow but was curious to see what other customers' experiences have been before doing so.

It doesn;t look like regular wear and tear. I'd return it. Also, maybe should install toe taps as well.
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Steven non of my deco have had that problem man best bet would be take it to GG store and they will take care of you. Since you are London based it would be best bet.


‚ÄčThanks. I am not London based but I am going down next week¬†so this is definitely an option.

I must admit I am very impatient and am tempted to phone the factory tomorrow but was curious to see what other customers' experiences have been before doing so.
I live in US & I email & call them, they have taken care of all my problems and question etc that I had. So best bet would be go to the store since you are going that way any way.
post #21548 of 21772

That's completely normal. When doing a closed channel stitching, they cut a tiny flap of leather and then stitch. When they close the flap, they just glue it down. The glue/cement fails from time to time, which is why you see that thin layer of leather. Any chance you walked on a wet surface? That's usually where it comes from.

 

Here's a quote from TheShoeSnobBlog that explains it as well:

 

"Closed channel soles, while looking nicer than the open channel counterparts, have an aesthetic weakness. In order to create the closed channel, you can to cut into the sole at a slanted angle in order to create a flat of leather that can lift up and then be glued back down. This flap is often thin and weak in the grande scheme of things. Therefore, sometimes if not cut properly (i.e. too thin) or glued properly, this flap can either come loose (esp. during wet days) or easily chip off if walking a lot on loose gravel or rocks. And if it does, it means nothing in terms of function (i.e. makes your shoe weaker or anything) but rather just now shows the channel and stitching. So if this happens to your shoe, do not worry, nothing is wrong with it. It just happens."

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^^^^good to know rbhan12 that it was not a defect etc biggrin.gif
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That's completely normal. When doing a closed channel stitching, they cut a tiny flap of leather and then stitch. When they close the flap, they just glue it down. The glue/cement fails from time to time, which is why you see that thin layer of leather. Any chance you walked on a wet surface? That's usually where it comes from.

 

Here's a quote from TheShoeSnobBlog that explains it as well:

 

"Closed channel soles, while looking nicer than the open channel counterparts, have an aesthetic weakness. In order to create the closed channel, you can to cut into the sole at a slanted angle in order to create a flat of leather that can lift up and then be glued back down. This flap is often thin and weak in the grande scheme of things. Therefore, sometimes if not cut properly (i.e. too thin) or glued properly, this flap can either come loose (esp. during wet days) or easily chip off if walking a lot on loose gravel or rocks. And if it does, it means nothing in terms of function (i.e. makes your shoe weaker or anything) but rather just now shows the channel and stitching. So if this happens to your shoe, do not worry, nothing is wrong with it. It just happens."


‚ÄčInteresting - thank you.

 

Whilst I can see how this could happen they have been worn twice and never in the wet. I think this needs remedying by the factory but what would you consider a suitable resolution?

 

Toe taps or will they just re-glue?

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‚ÄčInteresting - thank you.

Whilst I can see how this could happen they have been worn twice and never in the wet. I think this needs remedying by the factory but what would you consider a suitable resolution?

Toe taps or will they just re-glue?
This happens occasionally to my shoes that have closed channels. Could be not enough glue when they placed the thin leather layer or you may have unknowingly stepped on something that made shifted the binding and the foot contact slowly cause it to separate.

Really not a major issue in my opinion and you might find a quick purchase of shoe cement, a clothes pin, and a few minutes, will alleviate the problem in less time than reaching out to G&G and everything.

Either route you choose, It's a quick fix.
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This happens occasionally to my shoes that have closed channels. Could be not enough glue when they placed the thin leather layer or you may have unknowingly stepped on something that made shifted the binding and the foot contact slowly cause it to separate.

Really not a major issue in my opinion and you might find a quick purchase of shoe cement, a clothes pin, and a few minutes, will alleviate the problem in less time than reaching out to G&G and everything.

Either route you choose, It's a quick fix.


Ok. Thanks for the reassurance.

 

I suppose it is just unfortunate it has happened to my most expensive and seldom worn pair.

 

What shoe cement is the recommended product?

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Hi guys.

Please could some Deco owners help me out here?

It's gut-wrenching when you see something like that, I know! But I wouldn't panic - even the highest-quality toes are prone to damage in the course of normal wear. Relax, take them in to the store, and get toe tips fitted. Trust me - it's money well spent. They have saved my shoes more times than I can count!
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It's gut-wrenching when you see something like that, I know! But I wouldn't panic - even the highest-quality toes are prone to damage in the course of normal wear. Relax, take them in to the store, and get toe tips fitted.


‚ÄčThank you.

 

I will do what you suggest.

post #21555 of 21772
Next time consider sunken metal toe plates.

It looks as if you are hard on the toes based on the wear pattern. Closed channel soles can exhibit all types of separation with wear. The soles are pretty when they are new, but their clean look doesn't necessarily last.
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