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Originally Posted by aph999 View Post

Having just looked at the MTO page as I'm about to begin a Deco order, it's not apparent to me what the MTO surcharge was before this special offer. There was no reference to it in the price of the Deco models.

Can anyone clarify?

Full decos (and by that I mean the deco range e.g. Cliffes and Holdens and Bowllys, NOT non-deco shoes that are made to the deco last) are by definition MTOs - their price is on a one-off basis and so they've never attracted an MTO "surcharge".

Full-deco pricing, as far as I can tell, remains the same because there is no MTO surcharge to waive.

Deco-lasted shoes, on the other hand, DO qualify for the MTO surcharge waiver.

So for example, instead of getting a Holden (full deco) at normal deco pricing --



you could opt for an Oxford (non-deco) on the deco last and take advantage of the MTO surcharge waiver.



It is purely a matter of personal value whether the additional finishing and construction details of full deco are worth the price differential. With the October offer, the differential simply becomes larger.

Also bear in mind that the full deco price includes shoe trees. Deco-lasted MTOs do not - you will have to add shoe trees (£150 for EU customers) if you want them.

Hope that helps!
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Originally Posted by aph999 View Post

Having just looked at the MTO page as I'm about to begin a Deco order, it's not apparent to me what the MTO surcharge was before this special offer. There was no reference to it in the price of the Deco models.

Can anyone clarify?

 

Deco models are MTO only, so no price reduction there. 

 

Edit: Second, got answered properly already

post #21378 of 21772
grc1, that's tremendously helpful. Can you remind me what the additional construction features are of the full Deco models? I've seen some references here and there on the thread but I don't think sny one post has had a comprehensive answer.

Thanks very much.
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Originally Posted by aph999 View Post

grc1, that's tremendously helpful. Can you remind me what the additional construction features are of the full Deco models? I've seen some references here and there on the thread but I don't think sny one post has had a comprehensive answer.

Thanks very much.

Aesthetically, it's all but impossible for anyone off the street to tell the difference between a full deco model and a deco-lasted "standard model".

It's easier to see from the underside, but it's not my expertise to elucidate, let alone make comparative judgments between what I understand to be two very high levels of workmanship. At any rate, no-one who needs a shoe needs a G&G shoe, deco or non-deco, to do the job, so a value-for-money deliberation on points of construction can only go so far in terms of decision-making - in the end, you buy G&G because you really like their shoes. You buy deco when you really want a deco.

The choice is completely subjective - for a plain captoe, for example, I want a Holden. It's Holden or bust. Not a deco Oxford; a Holden, godammit. Whereas for a plain wholecut, I'm happy with a deco Sinatra - I don't need a Cooper. Wingtips, I could go either way. That's how my preference pans out at present. Go figure smile.gif.
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I think we decided on no speed hooks. Here are the specs on the invoice "GG06 last, Size, Natural lining, All blind eyelets (no speed hooks".  I remember there was some back and forth over going with the speeds hooks or not vs pull-tabs.

I would've guessed MH71 from that photo. Would love to see some more pics, especially indoors where typical BRG smooth calf can look black.

Congrats to all. Very jealous.
post #21381 of 21772
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Originally Posted by benjamin8451 View Post


I decided to go for Arran next month since the offer stands still until Oct 15th. and just ordered a pair of Galway.
seems reasonable-just wearing my Galways for the 1st time.
post #21382 of 21772
Kudu Thorpes on a wet Friday morning ...



... changing to deco Connaughts indoors.



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Originally Posted by heelguy View Post

just ordered Arran in Rioja Hatch.

 

Same here.  What last did you go with?  Any patina?  I went Deco w/o patina.

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Same here.  What last did you go with?  Any patina?  I went Deco w/o patina.

No patina either. I ended up going with the TG73 last with Oak Bark soles. Little safer for me than Deco last.
post #21385 of 21772
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No patina either. I ended up going with the TG73 last with Oak Bark soles. Little safer for me than Deco last.


Nice.  Good timing for the GG promotion so that everyone can get what they want without compromise.

post #21386 of 21772
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Originally Posted by armsignet View Post


Nice.  Good timing for the GG promotion so that everyone can get what they want without compromise.
A reprieve from the GMTO talk for sure.

I can't wait to see all of the great MTO's that will come out of this for everyone!
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Are patinas included or do they have a mark up
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Originally Posted by nickrut View Post

Are patinas included or do they have a mark up
It's extra lol other wise ppl would get it my man I believe 100 pounds but don't quot me on it.
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I am seriously thinking out holden in vintage rioja or cherry or presumably too ostentatious for a vintage cherry make-up?

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Originally Posted by TtownMD View Post

It's extra lol other wise ppl would get it my man I believe 100 pounds but don't quot me on it.

I meant during this special. Probably still applicable though.
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