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Thanks for the answers. Let me show in photos what I was meaning. This is a photo of a 10 week old GG. Note the deep creases that will attract dust and dirt and seem to reject the creams. The white is the rejection of the sapphire cream and polishes. The creasing is also unnatural in shape, and is hard to feel.

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Here is the same picture of a 10 year old CJ. You will note conditioning is well received and stops the deep creases forming. The leather is 10 years old worn weekly. Note there is none of that white color and rejection of the nutrition. The same creams were used. Creasing is soft to feel.

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Is this with all your GG shoes or just this one?
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I have to say its not the pebbled leathers nor Kudu, but seems to be prevalent on light colored calf leathers. The pebbled leathers nonetheless are also quite dry, and look great after a nutrition, but lose it all after a short walk as well. I feel it has something to do with the tanning, and hence my view on the quality. My point was they are lovely new or polished, but lose that after a walk like no other shoe I have ever had.

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Haven't owned pairs for that long, but my first G&G:'s were bought maybe three-four years ago or something like that, and has been used a lot. It's a pair of Cambridge in Vintage Cedar. I've said it before, this pair has one of the best leathers I've ever owned (together with a pair from Bestetti and a pair from Hiro Yanagimachi). Super supple, beautiful depth, and crease very little even though the fit isn't perfect. My other pair from the brand is maybe two-three years old and more standard in the leather quality, and might be true that it need some extra conditioning to not feel dry, still good though and what I'd expect from a premium brand.

Here's a couple of quite recent pics of my 3-4 year old Cambridge's:






Looking good J. Quality shoes and quality care.
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Dean told me at a trunk show that almost all of their smooth calf leathers are crust, which certainly can add to the creasing you gents are reporting. Additionally, color could be lightening or fading at the creases because of the two folds of leather rubbing against each other while walking. Inevitably, that friction and rubbing at the surface. Might be why people see "dryness" or apparent lightening at the creases. I imagine that a drum-dyed calfskin would behave differently. 

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You might be better off using a different type of leather food or conditioner, such as Bickmore 4, Lexol, or others, instead of Saphir.

Also, consider removing the polish and products sitting on the surface before trying to recondition successfully.
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^^^ Since Saphirs Medaille D'Or products contains a lot of wax, also the pommadier, it has a tendency to gather up in the creases making them lightly coloured. Products with less wax works better for crust leathers, for example Burgol or Collonil 1909. I never use Saphir on my crust shoes.
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GlenKaren conditioner!
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^^^ Since Saphirs Medaille D'Or products contains a lot of wax, also the pommadier, it has a tendency to gather up in the creases making them lightly coloured. Products with less wax works better for crust leathers, for example Burgol or Collonil 1909. I never use Saphir on my crust shoes.

Well said, stay away from Saphir products for crust.
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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

^^^ Since Saphirs Medaille D'Or products contains a lot of wax, also the pommadier, it has a tendency to gather up in the creases making them lightly coloured. Products with less wax works better for crust leathers, for example Burgol or Collonil 1909. I never use Saphir on my crust shoes.

Well, I've learned something new. I've been using Saphir, predominantly the creams with occasional use of the M d'Or. I'll try the Colloni 1909 and see how that works out, and maybe test the Burgol sometime. Thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

^^^ Since Saphirs Medaille D'Or products contains a lot of wax, also the pommadier, it has a tendency to gather up in the creases making them lightly coloured. Products with less wax works better for crust leathers, for example Burgol or Collonil 1909. I never use Saphir on my crust shoes.

Very useful to keep in mind, thank you. I use the Saphir wax paste for the toe and heel boxes (i.e. areas that do not get creased through wear), although I use the Saphir creams all over the shoe (after Bick 4 conditioner). I haven't had crazy creasing issues, thankfully. Here's hoping continued use of cream won't affect the appearance!
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Mole suede Burnhams




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Every time I see these mole suede Burnhams on Deco last I fight the urge to initiate exactly the same GMTO on Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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..just incredible and love the way they age.
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Thanks for the answers. Let me show in photos what I was meaning. This is a photo of a 10 week old GG. Note the deep creases that will attract dust and dirt and seem to reject the creams. The white is the rejection of the sapphire cream and polishes. The creasing is also unnatural in shape, and is hard to feel.

Common guys, taking about conditioners when you have such a leather on your shoes cracking after 10 month?. .  I think the leather of your pair is just really subpar.

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