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Originally Posted by justonemore View Post


Because a G&G is still a nice looking shoe no matter what is on the bottom of it? 

I am glad there is people thinking that way, willing to resole a any nice pair of looking shoes like GG´s with cheap leather/rubber soles at their local cobbler, saving much money.  And the blind sole stitching work means nothing to them, just  a waste of money.  So they keep buying top RTW shoes....:embar: 

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I mainly use Vass and I love the double leather soles. They're almost eternal despite living in a very rainy place. 

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I am glad there is people thinking that way, willing to resole a any nice pair of looking shoes like GG´s with cheap leather/rubber soles at their local cobbler, saving much money.  And the blind sole stitching work means nothing to them, just  a waste of money.  So they keep buying top RTW shoes....shog%5B1%5D.gif 

Because all cobblers use the cheapest of materials of course. I suppose only manufacturers have access to decent quality soles?

Surely you don't walk in your shoes, do you? I'd hate for you to mess up the blind stitching and all.
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LOL. Really? No difference between a mall brand shoe and a G&G with toppies? I beg to differ but to each their own.

Tell me....how long do the leather soles stay showroom pretty versus sidewalk beaten?

And just because Ferrari drivers can probably afford the insurance doesn't mean that they run their cars through whatever shit they come across without taking further precautions.
I think you miss understood my point. All I am trying to say & express is this any one who is buying dress shoes from any high end maker or bespoke were you are dropping 1500$ plus on a pair of shoe why would you want to topy them it's the question I have. Now can you yes you can but why would you want to shoemaker have made leather sole for a reason. Dose your topy have fiddle back sole? That originally came with a shoe? Very few people can do that once again if you go that rout you will be paying top $$ vs regular cobbler. And no I do not believe your back ally cobble has that skill. These are your word that you said to describe your cobbler few pages back. If he dose please post some picture & his info I will fed ex my shoes to him. It's like saying I own Ferrari but put regular gasoline in it but recommend is premiume. I know you topy your shoes because of your walking that you do over all sorts of crazy stuff & it's totally understand able but you also buy left over sale item item at 450$ to 500$ a pop. My question to you is if you go buy high end bespoke shoe like yoheifukuda are you telling me you are going to topy them? If you answer is yes then why not get stuff that is rubber sole ready all ready vs topy every thing & or just buy a mall brand shoe & save money. I just don't see a point of to topy all my high end shoes. Know if I had access to shoes for 450$ 500$ I would wear the crap out of them & dispose them & buy a new one. But yes I understand it's a preference choice & it's to each there own.
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Are you guys kidding me!? I came back to this thread for this shit... facepalm.gif
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I think you miss understood my point. All I am trying to say & express is this any one who is buying dress shoes from any high end maker or bespoke were you are dropping 1500$ plus on a pair of shoe why would you want to topy them it's the question I have. Now can you yes you can but why would you want to shoemaker have made leather sole for a reason. Dose your topy have fiddle back sole? That originally came with a shoe? Very few people can do that once again if you go that rout you will be paying top $$ vs regular cobbler. And no I do not believe your back ally cobble has that skill. These are your word that you said to describe your cobbler few pages back. If he dose please post some picture & his info I will fed ex my shoes to him. It's like saying I own Ferrari but put regular gasoline in it but recommend is premiume. I know you topy your shoes because of your walking that you do over all sorts of crazy stuff & it's totally understand able but you also buy left over sale item item at 450$ to 500$ a pop. My question to you is if you go buy high end bespoke shoe like yoheifukuda are you telling me you are going to topy them? If you answer is yes then why not get stuff that is rubber sole ready all ready vs topy every thing & or just buy a mall brand shoe & save money. I just don't see a point of to topy all my high end shoes. Know if I had access to shoes for 450$ 500$ I would wear the crap out of them & dispose them & buy a new one. But yes I understand it's a preference choice & it's to each there own.


To me my hobby is expensive enough. I try to save money here and there...If I have to have shoes resoled every 2 years by G&G at £500, it will cost me $10'000 over 40 years for a single pair....

 

Again-...You miss that much of EG and G&G is in the uppers as well versus concentrating on the soles...

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Is this what you wanted a photo of?


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To me my hobby is expensive enough. I try to save money here and there...If I have to have shoes resoled every 2 years by G&G at £500, it will cost me $10'000 over 40 years for a single pair....

Again-...You miss that much of EG and G&G is in the uppers as well versus concentrating on the soles...
Brother I am with you no harm done I know what you put your shoes through lol & it's very justified my man I don't think I can do that to my gg or other high end shoes my man. But for that reason I have cheaper shoes so I totally get it. No harm feeling just having some chit chat.
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Brother I am with you no harm done I know what you put your shoes through lol & it's very justified my man I don't think I can do that to my gg or other high end shoes my man. But for that reason I have cheaper shoes so I totally get it. No harm feeling just having some chit chat.

Understood. I agree with you on most of it. I don't really like doing it myself...and that's probably the reason I'm a bit combative. Lol

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Is this what you wanted a photo of?


 

Is this your shoe? If so, might I ask who did that work? It looks good from what I can see!

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It seems to me that the issue is not whether but why.

Why buy a G&G and then modify it? Wasn't it what you wanted in the first place? What were you paying for? What did you think you were paying for? Wasn't the bottom finish and the workmanship and the materials part of it? Every bit? Isn't leather more elegant and valuable than cured petrochemical sludge? Isn't that why people prefer leather shoes rather than plastic? If so why deface it?

If you can afford a pair of G&G...can afford to flaunt your "arrival" and affluence...is it so financially onerous to replace the leather outsole a little more often than you would if it were rubber?

Maybe it's just a matter of perspective. From mine, worn rubber soles...even topy... look cheaper than worn leather soles. Simply because is so "common." Pedestrian. tongue.gif

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Is this your shoe? If so, might I ask who did that work? It looks good from what I can see!


Sure thing...Guillaume Deuzet....He has hung his nameplate here in Lausanne after an extensive period of study under various well respected cobblers in France, Italy, & England. His last place was here in Switzerland under Yohan Seror in Geneve...I call him my back alley guy because although he's in the main shopping district, his shop is not on the main drag versus 50 feet down a pedestrian passage (no cars allowed in this area)...He does 1 semi-bespoke yearly (1 model for 6 people) which I hope to get in on next time...

 

Here's the website (French only)....

 

http://cordonnerie-deuzet.ch/

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If you drive a Ferrari in the u.s. do you send it back to Italy for regular maintenance or use the guy down the street that's been certified to do so? There are plenty of people with just as much skill, knowledge, and passion as those working in G&Gs manufacturing plant...but you for some reason assume an inferior job? What are the odds that your shoes will become lost or damaged in transit if you drive them over to the local guy versus shipping them overseas to England? You probably have to ship a lot of shoes to develop any type of relationship with
G&G. And of course G^G handles only G&G..so any immediate issues can be shipped to Northampton where you'll take your place in a 2 month line. If EG Fs up...you're back to square one..and of course you're not dealing with anyone face to face...

Not all cobblers are the same. I happen to have found someone who takes pride in his work and know what he's doing. For a full re-sole using leather from J&FJ Baker, tight and beveled waist, new heel stack and JR heel, he charges between £150-200 depending on the level of finishing. Wooden pegs optional. His price will likely increase as reputation builds. Compare this to £245 inc return postage to EG. But I don't know if everyone has access to such high quality workmanship.

Nb: Haven't reached that point yet, but my thinking is factory for the first 1-2 and then local.
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Not all cobblers are the same. I happen to have found someone who takes pride in his work and know what he's doing. For a full re-sole using leather from J&FJ Baker, tight and beveled waist, new heel stack and JR heel, he charges between £150-200 depending on the level of finishing. Wooden pegs optional. His price will likely increase as reputation builds. Compare this to £245 inc return postage to EG. But I don't know if everyone has access to such high quality workmanship.

Nb: Haven't reached that point yet, but my thinking is factory for the first 1-2 and then local.


To Sidney? That's not too bad...but with getting it there you're taking £300...Twice the cost of the local guy that you seem to trust...and £300 is 450 Swiss francs...450 francs is pretty close to what I paid for the shoes in the first place (and that included trees). 

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And another question...if cobblers use such poor quality materials...why is topy an exception? Or, perhaps more to the point, why do people so desperately want to believe it is?
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