Good to know - if i understand you correctly the major colour variation is a quality control issue - not just different batches of leather is different
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Gaziano & Girling Appreciation & Shoe Appreciation Thread (including reviews, purchases, pictures, etc...) - Page 1121post #16801 of 225668/25/15 at 2:21pmpost #16802 of 225668/25/15 at 2:33pmQuote:Originally Posted by hoodog
Personally, I think that the least you would reasonably be able to expect when ordering shoes from such a high end maker as G&G and at such a high price point is that you get the color you wanted. I really have a hard time understanding this apologetic take on these things (which sometimes also takes place in the EG thread to be fair). It's very Stockholm syndrome. I mean, it's G&G and £1000 shoes we're talking about here.
Just my 2 cents of course. But if I were in your shoes (!), I would be pretty pissed.
I totally agree with hoodog in this aspect 100% but to each there own.post #16803 of 225668/25/15 at 2:48pmQuote:Quote:
G&G, and I believe also EG, use pre-finished crust leather (in most cases at least), which means that the hides have a base color (which can vary), only the final finish is done in the factory after the shoe is made (not like when you use clean crust leather, the blue-grey hides, which is all finished after the shoe has been built, or sometimes painted to a base color before making and then finished when built).
Here's a pic I took when I visited the factory, double monks for RLPL that I think will be in vintage oak when finished:
Here's another one from The Shoe Snob Blog, with one model in the front and others in the back, where you can see some different shades:
Edited by j ingevaldsson - 8/25/15 at 2:58pmpost #16804 of 225668/25/15 at 2:51pmpost #16805 of 225668/25/15 at 3:54pmI agree with dddress. I appreciate that the color is out of Skoak's hands and the boot will still be fine. I wanted it lighter but I can live with it. Personally, I am disappointed by the lack of speed hooks. Did they just forget them? But, more importantly, I would still like to see more G&G preorders rather than less. I believe the MH 71 in F width is my best shoe and I need preorders or GMTOs to make it happen without an upcharge.post #16806 of 225668/25/15 at 4:08pmQuote:
You and me both.
It's a shame that this boot GMTO did was not executed perfectly or as expected, but let's not make it the last one. I'm sure Skoak will do here what they do best, provide great service...post #16807 of 225668/25/15 at 4:12pmThe color on the thorpes look great. Its more a matter of still having a hole in the rotation. There is 0 skoak can do about it and I appreciate the pickle they are in. This is my first GG make up and I think the factory should have advised skoak the color on this batch has a fair amount of variance from previous batches. I think Ryden....gulp....had the right idea. #firstworldproblems. A big thanks to Skoak for their transperancy and c/s.
Edit:I cetainly would not want skoak to discontinue the preorder option.post #16808 of 225668/25/15 at 4:18pmQuote:Originally Posted by bespoken pa
The color on the thorpes look great. Its more a matter of still having a hole in the rotation. There is 0 skoak can do about it and I appreciate the pickle they are in. This is my first GG make up and I think the factory should have advised skoak the color on this batch has a fair amount of variance from previous batches. I think Ryden....gulp....had the right idea. #firstworldproblems. A big thanks to Skoak for their transperancy and c/s.
Edit:I cetainly would not want skoak to discontinue the preorder option.
Well saidpost #16809 of 225668/25/15 at 4:18pmQuote:
+1, but this response is not new in SF.
It's a first world shoes and will have first world problems. Like missing some hooks.
However, sensing some passive hints of negotiations here, seeing dddrees's repsonse. Hope everything works out.post #16810 of 225668/25/15 at 4:47pmQuote:
I know the leather color is probably an unchangeable matter, but I wonder if the speed hook error can be fixed. I'm not an expect in shoe making, but maybe the metal hooks and brass holes can still be added after the fact? However, i'll leave that to Skoak to address with each participating person...post #16811 of 225668/25/15 at 4:54pmpost #16812 of 225668/25/15 at 4:59pmQuote:Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel
I know the leather color is probably an unchangeable matter, but I wonder if the speed hook error can be fixed. I'm not an expect in shoe making, but maybe the metal hooks and brass holes can still be added after the fact? However, i'll leave that to Skoak to address with each participating person...
In terms of the color there is nothing that can be done now except to make a new batch or for each owner to work on getting the shoe shade lighter with plenty of work. (That is up to you guys, but this shoe does look great)
But I wasn't in the order here and my comment is more to the speed hooks. Speed hooks can be added to a pair of shoes that does not have them. I had speed hooks added to my GG Canterbury even though the pair was already finished. It was sent back to the factory and GG took care of it. So it can be done but in sure that would have to be death with on an individual basis and it probably would take quite a bit of time to get them die to shipping and fitting that work into the production schedule.post #16813 of 225668/25/15 at 5:15pmpost #16814 of 225668/25/15 at 5:19pmQuote:
Let them see pictures first bit yea you could if that is what you would want. He mentioned to me before that it is easier to do the work to a new shoe anyway so he starts without any extra wear on it.post #16815 of 225668/25/15 at 6:56pmIf anyone is interested in a mole suede Arran chukka GMTO, be sure to take a look at my GMTO thread. Hopefully this will reduce my GMTO clutter here...
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