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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

Can I be the only one who thinks the dressy style of the St James should not be mixed with denim? Its too dressy a shoe in my opinion to be worn with denim.

No, you are not the only one who has this obviously correct view. Wearing oxfords -- that are meant for suits -- with jeans just looks like the wearer is either too poor to afford a second pair of shoes or that he has beat the shit of someone wearing a suit and stolen his shoes. The impression is one or the other. Nothing else. Cops know this, of course, and are liable to pick upa jean/st. james wearer on suspicion of assault and battery, and the realy heavy charge: taste so abominable that it is an offense against nature.

Jeans go with tennis shoes, and, at their dressiest, bluchers. Wearing dress shoes with jeans is like wearing a boardroom suit to slop the pigs. You can do it, but no one in their right mind would.
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It's very much an in-between look, and I reckon dressing up jeans never works thaaaaat well.

 

However, cuffing jeans with dress shoes just looks wrong.

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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

I don't understand this logic... Other people dress badly, so it's okay to do it too?

Agreed. For example, sweat pants worn outside a gym or a shirt with a sport team logo when you aren't attending a game. However, what we think is dressing badly can be the next fashion trend. If someone is putting some thought and planning into how they dress it may break rules, but not necessarily poorly dressed. True poor dressing is when a person dresses without some plan or consideration how it all goes together.
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Continuing the St.James II love ...
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Nice!!
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Originally Posted by charvey View Post

Agreed. For example, sweat pants worn outside a gym or a shirt with a sport team logo when you aren't attending a game. However, what we think is dressing badly can be the next fashion trend. If someone is putting some thought and planning into how they dress it may break rules, but not necessarily poorly dressed. True poor dressing is when a person dresses without some plan or consideration how it all goes together.

Sorry Charvey, I'm guessing you are new here so welcome to SF. You keep saying fashion but this is styleforum not fashionforum. Granted there is some leeway, but mostly there's really less interpretation of what classic menswear is and isn't. It certainly isn't about breaking rules and coming up with the next fashion trend. It's about styles that are timeless and will look appropriate 10, 20, 50 years from now.
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Originally Posted by Ironist View Post

We're talking style so everyone has their personal tastes but if you're trying to look the absolute best then nothing GG makes should be worn with jeans. Go buy a pair of aldens or just wear sneakers. GG is much too sleek and upscale to work with jeans which are comfortable and laid back.

I guess it's understandable to do it though. You want to wear these shoes but you want to be comfortable so you wear jeans. I don't like going half in, I go all in or not at all.

Quite frankly it really depends on the Jeans. Most of the pictures I see on here are the "not so slim fit" shall we say and usually faded and quite light in colour. This is where a sleek G&G looks a bit wrong.. Not bad but not as good as say a boot, or loafer. A slim, dark Jean that is the correct length (just touching the shoe, no bunching at the bottom) looks great. Ok if your wearing a t-shirt or polo it looks a bit out of place again, stick on a loafer. But a smart look, :- dark jeans, a collar and jacket, or close fitting sweater you will always look great.

A deco with loose fitting stonewashed jeans is never going to look right so I agree with all of these comments in some respect. If you are going to wear the smartest dress shoes on the market. Make sure the rest is also smart.

It's also good enough for the guys who actually make and sell these things too. So it's good enough for me.
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^ well said!
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Originally Posted by Ironist View Post

We're talking style so everyone has their personal tastes but if you're trying to look the absolute best then nothing GG makes should be worn with jeans. Go buy a pair of aldens or just wear sneakers. GG is much too sleek and upscale to work with jeans which are comfortable and laid back.

I guess it's understandable to do it though. You want to wear these shoes but you want to be comfortable so you wear jeans. I don't like going half in, I go all in or not at all.

Could not disagree with this more strongly. Why does one derby work but not another? Thorpe, Isham, Arran and Burnham (among many others) all work perfectly fine with jeans
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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

Could not disagree with this more strongly. Why does one derby work but not another? Thorpe, Isham, Arran and Burnham (among many others) all work perfectly fine with jeans

If you were going to wear gg then those would be better but in terms of ideal they would not be. Chisel last just doesn't look as casual as a blobby last. I think that's a common conception.
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Originally Posted by Ironist View Post


Sorry Charvey, I'm guessing you are new here so welcome to SF. You keep saying fashion but this is styleforum not fashionforum. Granted there is some leeway, but mostly there's really less interpretation of what classic menswear is and isn't. It certainly isn't about breaking rules and coming up with the next fashion trend. It's about styles that are timeless and will look appropriate 10, 20, 50 years from now.

 

It is a bit contradictory to speak about denim in respect of classic menswear ;). In latin it is called oxymoron ... .

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It's also good enough for the guys who actually make and sell these things too. So it's good enough for me.

 

+1

 

Historically jeans were outdoor work wear. As the composition and design of jeans have changed, that's no longer the case.

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Ok, I'll throw my two cents in.

 

Most of these "rules" have changed over time. It's just an illusion that "classic menswear" is something constant and neverchanging. As with all things, classic menswear changes, but it does however change a bit slower than many other areas of style. Personally, I try to avoid clinging to a rule just for the sake of it.

 

Anyway, I think one needs to make a distinction between 'denim' and 'denim'. Sure, a pair of Decos together with very faded, worn and baggy jeans will never look good IMO. On the other hand, a minimalsitic and clean, slim fit, "european" pair of raw denim (like A.P.C.s) will look just fine, and sometimes excellent, together with oxford shoes, including chisel lasted ones.


Edited by hoodog - 6/7/15 at 11:23pm
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I guess we just disagree.

I feel that oxfords were meant for suits/more formal occasions, and look just bad and awkward on jeans of any kind. The functions of both items are so disparate that is clashes.

Jeans are by nature casual, a working outdoor pant. I wouldn't wear them to a wedding, or a job interview. I would, however, wear oxfords. Along with a suit.
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

I guess we just disagree.

I feel that oxfords were meant for suits/more formal occasions, and look just bad and awkward on jeans of any kind. The functions of both items are so disparate that is clashes.

Jeans are by nature casual, a working outdoor pant. I wouldn't wear them to a wedding, or a job interview. I would, however, wear oxfords. Along with a suit.

 

It's ok to disagree. I still like you. :cheers:

 

Maybe it's also a bit of a cultural thing. I think americans have a less liberal way of thinking about denim than europeans. This is probably due to the fact that jeans were born - in a large scale anyway - in the US (?) and therefore has a lot of historical and cultural connotations that it doesn't have in Europe.

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