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gemming rules!

 

:lol:

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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post

ALL shoes that utilize hemming are in fact crap, please forward directly to bespoken pa for proper desctruction.

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Originally Posted by laufer View Post

My buddy bespoken(that Zug Galway really fostered brotherhood among men) was indeed being sarcastic. Most of us here find this discussion of GYW vs hand-welted absurd so we like to joke every time the topic becomes popular again.

Thanks for clarifying Laufer. That makes sense and had a hunch that it might have been sarcastic but could not be sure.

Yes, the debate is so absurdly ridiculous, especially how many people have been brainwashed into believing the idea that only handwelting should exist in the marketplace. What a joke.
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Originally Posted by Son Of Saphir View Post


me not like leather sole quality,
me know it bakers but it not last good,
other man say bespoke G&G sole wear fast to compared to other bespoke.

me not like leather upper,
it not as good as E.G for pairs me have and me not like it good ffffuuuu.gif

G&G good year welted and me like not it when it like that. musicboohoo[1].gif
G&G look good and fit good but it not very good quality like other high end shoe from England.

me like hand welt shoe,
they very very good and worth extra money. nod[1].gif
good year pretend shoe,
yes.


Me want a cookie

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Originally Posted by The Shoe Snob View Post


Thanks for clarifying Laufer. That makes sense and had a hunch that it might have been sarcastic but could not be sure.

Yes, the debate is so absurdly ridiculous, especially how many people have been brainwashed into believing the idea that only handwelting should exist in the marketplace. What a joke.

+1000

I do believe hand welted is best however that does not mean GYW isn't amazing as well. I often debate dfw about this topic. I just do not believe it matters enough (gemming) to discourage me from continuing to purchase my goods from North Hampton.

My previous post was in gest as Mr.Laufer suggested. Please keep going with the blog it helped guide me down the path of fine men's dress shoes.
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Well from Sweden via north Hampton TBH.
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Originally Posted by bespoken pa View Post


+1000

I do believe hand welted is best however that does not mean GYW isn't amazing as well. I often debate dfw about this topic. I just do not believe it matters enough (gemming) to discourage me from continuing to purchase my goods from North Hampton.

My previous post was in gest as Mr.Laufer suggested. Please keep going with the blog it helped guide me down the path of fine men's dress shoes.

 

My take is that I plan to buy only hand welted shoes after the gemming in my GYW shoes slips. Maybe that will happen tomorrow. Maybe that will happen 15 years from now. Who knows :D 

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Originally Posted by yanagi View Post

My take is that I plan to buy only hand welted shoes after the gemming in my GYW shoes slips. Maybe that will happen tomorrow. Maybe that will happen 15 years from now. Who knows biggrin.gif  

Most here have enough pairs on rotation to make sure this wouldn't happen in their lifetime.
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Originally Posted by rallyx View Post

Most here have enough pairs on rotation to make sure this wouldn't happen in their lifetime.

Just don't tell my wife, because this is another reason I use to justify buying more shoes. LOL
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Originally Posted by The Shoe Snob View Post

Yes, the debate is so absurdly ridiculous, especially how many people have been brainwashed into believing the idea that only handwelting should exist in the marketplace. What a joke.

+1 quoted and bolded for truth!
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Originally Posted by The Shoe Snob View Post



Yes, the debate is so absurdly ridiculous, especially how many people have been brainwashed into believing the idea that only handwelting should exist in the marketplace. What a joke.

Justin, having read other threads on shoemaking, I don't believe the intention is to justify only handwelting.  I think the argument is that handwelting or even Goodyear welting using a carved channel to the insole as the feather for stitching the welt make for a stronger connection between the insole and the welt compared to Goodyear welting using a canvass feather glued to the insole.

 

I suppose it is an education process for me to learn the different methods of construction and isn't that what SF is all about, to share and gain information which influence the choice of shoes.  Each construction method has a place in the vast market of mens shoes.

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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post

As I said the Kudu St James hits the spot for me. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't mind a pearl grey something later, however I'd like to get a St James first before I would commit to another St James.

After all the St James ain't No Galway. LOL

Actually the pearl grey might be enough to convince me to get another St James.

Yea I know what you mean but the st James is like the Galway boot for me on the shoe side. It is so versatile like the Galway depending in the last and leather that you use. It is amazing as a two tone as well.

This will be such a tough one to decide between! I want both but having the kudu Thorpe on order makes me really ink about it. Plus should I really use up so much kudu for my size that could be used for others? I want the SF members to at least have a chance because we probably will use it all up between the few GMTOs
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Originally Posted by rallyx View Post

Most here have enough pairs on rotation to make sure this wouldn't happen in their lifetime.

 

   thank you

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And once again we get into this about gumming in GYW vs hand welted. Yes hand welted is technically superior but with the amount if shoes that most of is have and how we take care of them, we probably will never have gumming failure. Plus if it happens the higher end makers will fully recraft them and replace that part if possible.

We love what we love and that shouldn't be the only difference. I have shoes that are hand welted bit still not as well made overall as some GYW shoes. I also have shoes that are superior but that difference in quality comes with a price.
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Originally Posted by mw313 View Post

Yea I know what you mean but the st James is like the Galway boot for me on the shoe side. It is so versatile like the Galway depending in the last and leather that you use. It is amazing as a two tone as well.

This will be such a tough one to decide between! I want both but having the kudu Thorpe on order makes me really ink about it. Plus should I really use up so much kudu for my size that could be used for others? I want the SF members to at least have a chance because we probably will use it all up between the few GMTOs

I can see this being a harder decision since you already have a Kudu on order.

For me it was a no brainier, in fact the more I think about the more this makeup works for me. I've always thought about getting the St James previously, but this is the first makeup I didn't have to think about it,. I just knew I had to get it. When you run across those that move you,then jump in with both feet. LOL
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Originally Posted by mw313 View Post

Yea I know what you mean but the st James is like the Galway boot for me on the shoe side. It is so versatile like the Galway depending in the last and leather that you use. It is amazing as a two tone as well.

This will be such a tough one to decide between! I want both but having the kudu Thorpe on order makes me really ink about it. Plus should I really use up so much kudu for my size that could be used for others? I want the SF members to at least have a chance because we probably will use it all up between the few GMTOs

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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post

I can see this being a harder decision since you already have a Kudu on order.

For me it was a no brainier, in fact the more I think about the more this makeup works for me. I've always thought about getting the St James previously, but this is the first makeup I didn't have to think about it,. I just knew I had to get it. When you run across those that move you,then jump in with both feet. LOL

I know what you mean but it is tough for me not only that I have a kudu on order but that the st James is my all time favorite style for a shoe outside of some bespoke models.
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