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Well, I'm certainly no GG expert. This is probably a @Leaves question.

However, considering GG spawned from EG, it would make sense that they carried over all of the shoe building processes. Including the pig bristle hand sewn apron of course...


That's a good point, and your probably right there were probably a number of things that carried over as to how their shoes are being made.

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That's a good point, and your probably right there were probably a number of things that carried over as to how their shoes are being made.

I'm trying to think of this logically, and maybe @DWFII can correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think the circular apron sewing can be done with any other needle but a pig bristle. A metal one would not be able to bend to make the circular pattern, and probably leave wider hole stitched. Here are a couple of pics of my Hove apron for reference:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Maybe some plastic thin needle could do this, but i'm not sure if such a thing exists, or if it would cost more than just using a pig bristle...
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I have to hand to Skoak.

 

 

I like how they leave the Pre-Orders up until the end of our day and not just till the end of their day.

 

 

Certainly gives people like @DpprDr the extra time to make a decision when they need it.

 

 

Otherwise he might just miss out on that Thorpe. LOL

post #14449 of 21771
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post


I'm trying to think of this logically, and maybe @DWFII can correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think the circular apron sewing can be done with any other needle but a pig bristle. A metal one would not be able to bend to make the circular pattern, and probably leave wider hole stitched. Here are a couple of pics of my Hove apron for reference: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Maybe some plastic thin needle could do this, but i'm not sure if such a thing exists, or if it would cost more than just using a pig bristle...


So your thinking it's the delicate nature or tightness of the pattern and this is the reason a pig bristle is required.

 

I've always kind of wondered why the Pig Bristle to be honest.

 

 

Maybe this explains it.

 

 

Great pictures, and fabulous looking shoes by the way.

post #14450 of 21771
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Originally Posted by dddrees View Post


So your thinking it's the delicate nature or tightness of the pattern and this is the reason a pig bristle is required.

I've always kind of wondered why the Pig Bristle to be honest.


Maybe this explains it.


Great pictures, and fabulous looking shoes by the way.

Yes, especially since (if you look at how the pattern forms little circles) the bristle would have to bend/curve to make that pattern. Can't do that with a rigid metal needle i think. I can see why this takes skill to do, let alone do well...
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Can someone advise on the types of grain leather offered by G&G. I believe there is Pin Grain, Highland Grain, Hatch Grain. What is Alpine Grain?
post #14452 of 21771
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

Well, I'm certainly no GG expert. This is probably a @Leaves question.

However, considering GG spawned from EG, it would make sense that they carried over all of the shoe building processes. Including the pig bristle hand sewn apron of course...

I honestly don't know that, I'll have to ask during my next visit.

Remember that EG was just one of several shoemakers that Tony and Dean used to work with/for. It's not like everything they learnt comes from EG. smile.gif
post #14453 of 21771
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Originally Posted by badsha View Post

Can someone advise on the types of grain leather offered by G&G. I believe there is Pin Grain, Highland Grain, Hatch Grain. What is Alpine Grain?

You can add brown english grain. I don't think they have alpine grain anymore though...
post #14454 of 21771
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post

I honestly don't know that, I'll have to ask during my next visit.

Remember that EG was just one of several shoemakers that Tony and Dean used to work with/for. It's not like everything they learnt comes from EG. smile.gif

Considering they took their bespoke operation with them, it was probably the other way around on some part... smile.gif
post #14455 of 21771
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You can add brown english grain. I don't think they have alpine grain anymore though...

I was hoping there would be a dark cherry highland grain. Was thinking of the Oakham in dark cherry red and straps in a cherry highland grain, but I don't think it is offered.
post #14456 of 21771
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I was hoping there would be a dark cherry highland grain. Was thinking of the Oakham in dark cherry red and straps in a cherry highland grain, but I don't think it is offered.
They have a burgundy highland grain. Maybe that will work for your dark cherry Oakham...
post #14457 of 21771
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They have a burgundy highland grain. Maybe that will work for your dark cherry Oakham...

Yeah it will. It was an MTO through Skoak. But this Oakham is on the Deco last.

post #14458 of 21771
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post


Yes, especially since (if you look at how the pattern forms little circles) the bristle would have to bend/curve to make that pattern. Can't do that with a rigid metal needle i think. I can see why this takes skill to do, let alone do well...

 

Although we don't know for sure at this point, everything you said made sense to me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts sir. :cheers:

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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post


I honestly don't know that, I'll have to ask during my next visit.

Remember that EG was just one of several shoemakers that Tony and Dean used to work with/for. It's not like everything they learnt comes from EG. smile.gif


Actually I brought it up just because I was curious.

 

It would be kind of nice to know however, if you remember to ask the next time your there @Leaves.

post #14459 of 21771
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Considering they took their bespoke operation with them, it was probably the other way around on some part... smile.gif


I have to wonder how much this hurt EG, at least initially anyway.

post #14460 of 21771
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I have to wonder how much this hurt EG, at least initially anyway.
From what I have read, it is not wise to bring it up to them...
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