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I had them for a few months now and I don't think breaking in is the issue (the 7F is already comfortable first time I wear them but the 7.5E is utterly another story)

the 7F is pressing against my 3rd and 4th toe at toe cap area, this usually happens after walking for some time. But when I try on the MH71 trial shoes (those black Oxford ones at GG), there isn't such problem.

I am given to understand that MH71 and TG73 should fit the same but apparently this is not the case? anyhow I don't have problem fitting on the most standard E last on EG, really dunno what the problem is...

 

   i'm no expert and only know my personal fits in G&G lasts.

   am I understanding that 7F in the MH71 fits the way you want but the 7.5E in the TG73 doesn't ?

post #11687 of 21771
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   i'm no expert and only know my personal fits in G&G lasts.
   am I understanding that 7F in the MH71 fits the way you want but the 7.5E in the TG73 doesn't ?

Lucky you! I have problem with both 7F and 7.5E in TG73

For 7.5E, there is heel slip and my foot slips inside the shoes and it's causing me quite a bit of discomfort

For 7F, fit is perfect and hug my feet nicely so no heel slip and all, but the cap presses against my toes

My fitting on a 7F MH71 Trial shoe don't have the toe cap problem
post #11688 of 21771
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Lucky you! I have problem with both 7F and 7.5E in TG73



For 7.5E, there is heel slip and my foot slips inside the shoes and it's causing me quite a bit of discomfort



For 7F, fit is perfect and hug my feet nicely so no heel slip and all, but the cap presses against my toes



My fitting on a 7F MH71 Trial shoe don't have the toe cap problem



 



   I had a similar problem with a loafer on the KN14 but only on the first wear with no problem since. it was



   clearly break in



 



   the fit I find odd is a theoretically shorter shoe in a wider fitment has no heel slip but a cramping toe box.



   particularly when you were sent a trial shoe which seems to indicate bespoke ?

post #11689 of 21771
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Lucky you! I have problem with both 7F and 7.5E in TG73



For 7.5E, there is heel slip and my foot slips inside the shoes and it's causing me quite a bit of discomfort



For 7F, fit is perfect and hug my feet nicely so no heel slip and all, but the cap presses against my toes



My fitting on a 7F MH71 Trial shoe don't have the toe cap problem

 


   I had a similar problem with a loafer on the KN14 but only on the first wear with no problem since. it was


   clearly break in


 


   the fit I find odd is a theoretically shorter shoe in a wider fitment has no heel slip but a cramping toe box.


   particularly when you were sent a trial shoe which seems to indicate bespoke ?

no, not bespoke, just trying on the fitting shoes where GG stock at their showrooms.

 

if there is cramping toe box on a bespoke shoe, something must have gone really wrong haha

 

Just wonder if the MH71 has more toe room than the TG73, conventional saying is that they fit the same but apparently this is not the case?

post #11690 of 21771
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no, not bespoke, just trying on the fitting shoes where GG stock at their showrooms.

 

if there is cramping toe box on a bespoke shoe, something must have gone really wrong haha

 

Just wonder if the MH71 has more toe room than the TG73, conventional saying is that they fit the same but apparently this is not the case?

They fit pretty like they were the same last on my feet. I always thought TG73 gave plenty of room around the toes, too.

post #11691 of 21771
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no, not bespoke, just trying on the fitting shoes where GG stock at their showrooms.

if there is cramping toe box on a bespoke shoe, something must have gone really wrong haha

Just wonder if the MH71 has more toe room than the TG73, conventional saying is that they fit the same but apparently this is not the case?

Yes. More toe room for MH71. Width and length are the same. Beware of any cap toe oxfords; they tolerate the least margin of error for fit.
post #11692 of 21771
As other have mentioned, even though GG say there is no noticeable fit difference in their lasts, plenty of people have said they the TG 73 is a bit more narrow in the toe box than the others.

I would also like to add that you should be aware of the slightly more generous nature of open laced shoes vs. closed laced models. I notice the more generous vamp in the open laced GG boot I have, compared to the Wigmore in the same size. So, if the model you tried on was an open laced shoe ( and the shoe you bought a close laced shoe), it might explain why it was a bit more comfortable.

As far as your 7F problems, are you saying the only issue is that the captoe is collapsing on your center toes? Or is it cutting into them as you take a step?

Have you tried the 7.5 F? Considering, maybe the 7F is just a bit short on you length wise...
post #11693 of 21771
obviously personal foot shape is the deciding factor, but all their lasts fit me the same way. i am a consistent 11UK in all GG lasts, and they fit me better than any other RTW shoe. but i guess i just have lucky feet.
post #11694 of 21771

Fulfilled a bit of a shoe dream today and bought my first pair of G&G and they are glorious!

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icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif what pair did you buy?
post #11696 of 21771
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Fulfilled a bit of a shoe dream today and bought my first pair of G&G and they are glorious!
Fantastic... nod[1].gif
post #11697 of 21771
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As other have mentioned, even though GG say there is no noticeable fit difference in their lasts, plenty of people have said they the TG 73 is a bit more narrow in the toe box than the others.

I would also like to add that you should be aware of the slightly more generous nature of open laced shoes vs. closed laced models. I notice the more generous vamp in the open laced GG boot I have, compared to the Wigmore in the same size. So, if the model you tried on was an open laced shoe ( and the shoe you bought a close laced shoe), it might explain why it was a bit more comfortable.

As far as your 7F problems, are you saying the only issue is that the captoe is collapsing on your center toes? Or is it cutting into them as you take a step?

Have you tried the 7.5 F? Considering, maybe the 7F is just a bit short on you length wise...

thanks mate. good to know that I am not the only one with problem on TG73.

 

the trial shoe i tried on was a closed laced oxford, and the one i bought was a closed laced one too. The only difference is that the one i bought is TG73 and the one I tried was MH71.

 

yup the only problem with 7F is on the toe cap, and its cutting into my toes when i take step (esp. when i walked for a while), otherwise it fits perfectly and there is no problem when I just wear them and dont walk that much (but hey, what's the point in that!). In fact, the first one i bought (and which I had to let go) was a 7.5E and the heel slippage is causing me quite a big deal of pain and discomfort.

 

that's the bit I get confused, a lot of people fits well on GG and I dont believe I have a peculiar feet considering I fit well on other shoesmakers like EG on 888 E lasts, which is standard.

 

in fact, I have taken a leap of faith recently after knowing there is a price surge on GG whereu[on I ordered another pair of MTO TG73 and ask for extra toe room, dunno how this is gonna work out, and I am still struggling if I should change to MH71 last instead (but problem I have with MH71 is that it looks too fat similar to 888 last and i dont like that too much). 

post #11698 of 21771
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icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif what pair did you buy?

 

Cambridge, Vintage Cedar :D

 

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Fantastic... nod[1].gif

 

Thanks! Pictures will be up shortly! 

post #11699 of 21771
awesome. cant wait to see pics.
post #11700 of 21771
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Cambridge, Vintage Cedar biggrin.gif


Thanks! Pictures will be up shortly! 

Excellent! Cambridge is a great shoe, I wore my Vintage Oak pair yesterday. Can't wait to see yours in Cedar.
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