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Originally Posted by jas0nt View Post

G&G shoe trees cost 6 times more than non G&G shoe trees?

Yes, they are quite expensive , I must admit. But so are G&G shoes.
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I foresee the age old debate of the quantitative benefits of lasted trees vs non-lasted in this thread's future... lurker[1].gif
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I foresee the age old debate of the quantitative benefits of lasted trees vs non-lasted in this thread's future... lurker[1].gif

There might not be quantitative benefits but it is always nice having a pair of matching shoe trees with the shoe maker. Also they look like pieces of art (much better than EG or JL shoe trees in my opinion), so that's part of the premium as well. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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Originally Posted by jas0nt View Post

There might not be quantitative benefits but it is always nice having a pair of matching shoe trees with the shoe maker. Also they look like pieces of art (much better than EG or JL shoe trees in my opinion), so that's part of the premium as well. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
Ow, I love my GG trees, they are stunning. I do enjoy the aesthetics, but honestly, I am looking to pic up some EGs and plan to get regular trees for those... shog[1].gif
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Ow, I love my GG trees, they are stunning. I do enjoy the aesthetics, but honestly, I am looking to pic up some EGs and plan to get regular trees for those... shog[1].gif

I totally agree with you. EG shoe trees are nowhere near G&G's in terms of aesthetics. In addition, the ones I have are for D/E fittings, so not as good as G&G who offer specific trees for each width.
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Originally Posted by Chowkin View Post

I totally agree with you. EG shoe trees are nowhere near G&G's in terms of aesthetics. In addition, the ones I have are for D/E fittings, so not as good as G&G who offer specific trees for each width.
Yup, the pair of EG trees I recently handled were a little generic, and no indication of width at all. Generics will do just fine for me I think...
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

Yup, the pair of EG trees I recently handled were a little generic, and no indication of width at all. Generics will do just fine for me I think...

The EG shoe trees I bought came in a box labelled size 5 D/E. Given my small size it's very difficult to find generic trees. The Armoury doss sell its own branded ones in size 5 at US$50 but the difference is not that big, so I opted for EG trees
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Originally Posted by MoosicPa View Post


They are Allen Edmonds.

Thanks.  I will look into A&E trees.

 

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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

I foresee the age old debate of the quantitative benefits of lasted trees vs non-lasted in this thread's future... lurker[1].gif

 

I opt for lasted trees, however, I have purchased G&G shoes from dealers and members that did not offer sized G&G trees.  I wondered if there is a better option than waiting weeks for a lasted pair to come in while using poorly fitting generic trees. Maybe it is time for a group buy on a 3D printer?

 

That said, are lasted trees just cossetting shoes?  It seems to me that shapely lasts and toe boxes warrant them, but I am willing to hear wisdom that says otherwise.

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G&G shoe trees are more form than function anyway. The varnishing really inhibits any moisture absorption. 

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Usually I do my best to avoid shü trees from makers themselves. Few RTW pairs have shapes that really need special support and most branded trees have high markups. G&G is one of the few exceptions, all of their lasts are just about the most contoured available and all need proper trees to keep those lovely curves.
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I basically only use generic trees (only good quality cedar trees that have a solid heel piece and split vamp piece though) and they work just fine. The most important thing is to choose the right size that will fit best for each specific last. After all, there is quite a difference between C&J 325 and DG70.
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Originally Posted by jaywhyy View Post

G&G shoe trees are more form than function anyway. The varnishing really inhibits any moisture absorption. 

this comment makes no sense, i doubt any tree coated or not will help with this, why would you want to retain the moisture absorbed in the tree in the shoe, if you want to let the air you best to leave the tree out for a short time before you insert it back in.

from all the shoe makers i have ever spoken too, the general purpose of the tree it to retain the shape and preserve the leather from excess creasing - does nothing for absorbing moisture coated or not - AFAIK this is a myth
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Those shoemakers have much to learn from styleforum common wisdom.
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Originally Posted by jaywhyy View Post

G&G shoe trees are more form than function anyway. The varnishing really inhibits any moisture absorption. 

this comment makes no sense, i doubt any tree coated or not will help with this, why would you want to retain the moisture absorbed in the tree in the shoe, if you want to let the air you best to leave the tree out for a short time before you insert it back in.

from all the shoe makers i have ever spoken too, the general purpose of the tree it to retain the shape and preserve the leather from excess creasing - does nothing for absorbing moisture coated or not - AFAIK this is a myth

+1. This whole talk about moist absorption is really exaggerated. If the trees absorb any moisture at all, then it will surely be very very little so.

Trees are first an foremost to keep the uppers from excess creasing and to stretch out the sole to prevent it from bending upwards (like clown shoes).
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Any thoughts on the Skoak_ShoeTrees for G&G shoes? I remember someone mentioning G&G Boot Trees being available for Bespoke customers only?
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