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is there a legitimate reason why trump is a viable candidate ? i'm asking seriously because i don't listen to him much but i've never heard him talk about anything relevant in any level of detail but to say he's great and will make america great . building the military and making it powerful is meaningless when it's already the most powerful and greater than the next 10 combined.
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

is there a legitimate reason why trump is a viable candidate ? i'm asking seriously because i don't listen to him much but i've never heard him talk about anything relevant in any level of detail but to say he's great and will make america great . building the military and making it powerful is meaningless when it's already the most powerful and greater than the next 10 combined.


Yes, there is. Trump is America flipping the establishment the middle finger. The establishment being MSM, political correctness, Yale, Harvard, NYT, professional politicians, Wall Street / D.C. conduit dwellers.

The country has been so mismanaged, and the president is so unhinged from reality, that voters would prefer the bull in the china shop.
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If and whenTrump has to spend substantial amounts of his own money, he's out of there.

His "campaign" so far has been like a masterful branding operation. Like his" real estate empire" that is named for him but he only has sweat equity stakes in.

NB: I support Trump, or anyone else against H R C.
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is there a legitimate reason why trump is a viable candidate ? i'm asking seriously because i don't listen to him much but i've never heard him talk about anything relevant in any level of detail but to say he's great and will make america great . building the military and making it powerful is meaningless when it's already the most powerful and greater than the next 10 combined.

 

I have said this before, but I think the main reason he is a viable candidate is he doesn't apologize.  He has these soundbites and never apologizes for saying something awful.  I think a lot of Republicans are tired of New England Republicans like Romney who are ready to compromise from the word go and aren't shy about it.  Trump, at least according to The Art of the Deal, is all about compromising, but at this stage in the game, he's not talking about it.

The other main thing is he is amazing at tuning into his audience.  He says something about having compassion and letting in refugees, but then Paris happens and he is immediately switched to not allowing these terrorist refugees immigrate.  He makes a guy like Kerry look like a staunch ideologue, but he isn't really getting called out for it.

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is there a legitimate reason why trump is a viable candidate ? i'm asking seriously because i don't listen to him much but i've never heard him talk about anything relevant in any level of detail but to say he's great and will make america great . building the military and making it powerful is meaningless when it's already the most powerful and greater than the next 10 combined.


Since when does a candidate need a legitimate reason? Our current president was a half-retard streetwalker. Our immediate past president was a full-retard. The one before that a rapist, the one before that a spook, the one before that brain damaged. Trump fits in just fine.
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I have said this before, but I think the main reason he is a viable candidate is he doesn't apologize. 

Trump is raw zeitgeist. The other candidates dance and hint around it, trying to harvest the energy without committing gaffes. Trump has realized that the gaffes are a feature, that it just plays into the rage and impotence and anti-PC mentality.

I certainly don't think he can win a general election like that, but he might be able to get enough Republican voters in this field to end up being the nominee.
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Since when does a candidate need a legitimate reason? Our current president was a half-retard streetwalker. Our immediate past president was a full-retard. The one before that a rapist, the one before that a spook, the one before that brain damaged. Trump fits in just fine.

well in my post i didn't ask for trump's reason for candidacy but the reason why people view him as a legitimate candidate for office. and saying others weren't qualified isn't an answer either.
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I have said this before, but I think the main reason he is a viable candidate is he doesn't apologize.  He has these soundbites and never apologizes for saying something awful.  I think a lot of Republicans are tired of New England Republicans like Romney who are ready to compromise from the word go and aren't shy about it.  Trump, at least according to The Art of the Deal, is all about compromising, but at this stage in the game, he's not talking about it.

The other main thing is he is amazing at tuning into his audience.  He says something about having compassion and letting in refugees, but then Paris happens and he is immediately switched to not allowing these terrorist refugees immigrate.  He makes a guy like Kerry look like a staunch ideologue, but he isn't really getting called out for it.

exactly, flip-flop kerry ... not that it matters, because the issues he talks about or nothing more than vagaries. i still don't understand how any of that translates to running for or acting as president. immigrants bad, build wall, survey cheering mosques, america is great, big military ... the polls can't be real and/or this isn't a platform, it's pandering to an audience of knuckle draggers foaming at the mouth (or the likes of Harold falcon zombies watching fox news at 3am in a semi-vegetative state after the 23rd martini).
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If and whenTrump has to spend substantial amounts of his own money, he's out of there.

His "campaign" so far has been like a masterful branding operation. Like his" real estate empire" that is named for him but he only has sweat equity stakes in.

NB: I support Trump, or anyone else against H R C.

well then the republican party has dug itself into this mess by allowing a vocal minority to dictate the extremes to which the candidates must go to conform with the party. oddly enough, this sounds more and more like china's setup.

I don't think clinton would be such a great option either, if for no other reason than the divisiveness that would ensue, worst than what happened after osama from blackistan took office. but what's the alternative, a 400 year old dinosaur that redefines socialism to suit his purposes ? it would be fun just to see if he can actually get the money out of politics, or we crash and burn trying ...
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I have said this before, but I think the main reason he is a viable candidate is he doesn't apologize. 

Trump is raw zeitgeist. The other candidates dance and hint around it, trying to harvest the energy without committing gaffes. Trump has realized that the gaffes are a feature, that it just plays into the rage and impotence and anti-PC mentality.

I certainly don't think he can win a general election like that, but he might be able to get enough Republican voters in this field to end up being the nominee.

even that is a stretch. sure he leads the polls, but that's not such a great metric of anything other than the fraction of the population that is involved of which, say, half is republican, and of which only a percentage supports him.
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well in my post i didn't ask for trump's reason for candidacy but the reason why people view him as a legitimate candidate for office. and saying others weren't qualified isn't an answer either.
exactly, flip-flop kerry ... not that it matters, because the issues he talks about or nothing more than vagaries. i still don't understand how any of that translates to running for or acting as president. immigrants bad, build wall, survey cheering mosques, america is great, big military ... the polls can't be real and/or this isn't a platform, it's pandering to an audience of knuckle draggers foaming at the mouth (or the likes of Harold falcon zombies watching fox news at 3am in a semi-vegetative state after the 23rd martini).
well then the republican party has dug itself into this mess by allowing a vocal minority to dictate the extremes to which the candidates must go to conform with the party. oddly enough, this sounds more and more like china's setup.

I don't think clinton would be such a great option either, if for no other reason than the divisiveness that would ensue, worst than what happened after osama from blackistan took office. but what's the alternative, a 400 year old dinosaur that redefines socialism to suit his purposes ? it would be fun just to see if he can actually get the money out of politics, or we crash and burn trying ...

 

Remember when Obama campaigned on getting money of politics?  No one in his office could go into lobbying and he wouldn't hire lobbyists.

Trump does a lot of the platitudes, and while he doesn't get into the details of his plans, he does flip flop on the over-riding message of his plan.  Refugees, socialized medicine, progressive income taxes, etc.

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Fucking genius.

9:20 "She responded to her friend"

I don't get it either. What's the joke?
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

well in my post i didn't ask for trump's reason for candidacy but the reason why people view him as a legitimate candidate for office. and saying others weren't qualified isn't an answer either.

Those are the qualifications, I was answering your question.
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well then the republican party has dug itself into this mess by allowing a vocal minority to dictate the extremes to which the candidates must go to conform with the party. oddly enough, this sounds more and more like china's setup.

I don't think clinton would be such a great option either, if for no other reason than the divisiveness that would ensue, worst than what happened after osama from blackistan took office. but what's the alternative, a 400 year old dinosaur that redefines socialism to suit his purposes ? it would be fun just to see if he can actually get the money out of politics, or we crash and burn trying ...


If anything this is the Republican party finally breaking free from the Moral Majority contingent that has held it hostage for four decades. Trump is not being held hostage by the party, he's taking over.

Clinton is an evil succubus whore. No one can vote for her and pretend to have a clean conscience.
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

is there a legitimate reason why trump is a viable candidate ? i'm asking seriously because i don't listen to him much but i've never heard him talk about anything relevant in any level of detail but to say he's great and will make america great . building the military and making it powerful is meaningless when it's already the most powerful and greater than the next 10 combined.

This is a candidate who in September of this year said he supported government run universal healthcare. He said this on video during an interview - and he's at 30% in the polls. It's amazing. A lot of primary voters believe some of the country's problems are imminent and there isn't much time left to fix them. They see Trump as the only candidate who has the gull to acknowledge those problems, and they are willing to ignore Trump's liberal past, or even current liberal positions, as long as he gets the job done in other areas.

Trump has also become a way for voters to vicariously express their anger toward everything they dislike about the current system.
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OH SNAP! SHOTS FIRED! SHOTS FIRED!
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This will be good.

Also, I predict this will be Obama's most watched impromptu address (although he's only given like 4 of them) because of Trump's participation. But the media will spin it that everyone watched because of how important Obama's vomitous comments will be.
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