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Originally Posted by NoVaguy View Post

Fascinating look (at least, to me) at how the USC/LA Times poll is possibly off. Apparently the polling panel includes a 19 year African American male* Trump supporter, and since its a set panel (that is, they are using the same group of people for each poll throughout the election) and since the poll weighs for things like 18 - 21 year old men, this one guy is distorting everything. As explained in the article, weighing usually doesn't get that targeted.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/upshot/how-one-19-year-old-illinois-man-is-distorting-national-polling-averages.html?action=click&contentCollection=upshot®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=2&mtrref=undefined

I do still think that the set panel poll strategy might have value as a trend poll rather than a level poll.

*Edit - in Illinois of all places....

 

No Gary Johnson in the poll?

 

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Originally Posted by Ace_Face View Post

Scott (Dilbert) Adams finally came out for Trump. Then, after the Trump tape came out, he stood by his analysis of a landslide victory. Now he is endorsing Johnson

 

He misspelled Aleppo while giving Johnson grief about Aleppo.  Maybe he's trying to imitate the NY Times, who had to issue four corrections to their Johnson/Aleppo story.

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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


I actually believe this and DWS stepping down without much of a fight just makes me more sure it's the case.

 

 

Remember who stepped down as DNC chair to make room for DWS?

 

Hint: the person's surname is on this picture:

 

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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

Speaking of this - whats up with the wikileaks/putin narrative?

 

HRC propaganda to diffuse criticism from the left when she launches WWIII over Syria.

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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

I guess there were several deletions.

Comey's statement says the law firm deleted the e-mails, but maybe he's just talking about copies they might have retained:

 

Google "platte reddit stonetear"

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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

Google "platte reddit stonetear"


If you are referring the invoice that comes up first...Why's that weird?
If some client's shit forced me to travel and give testimony and interviews...you'd better believe that client would be paying my bills.


If you are just referring to the theory that this guy is an idiot who had to ask his questions on Reddit (not that there is anything weird about asking professional questions on somewhere like reddit or stack overflow....but don't be all like "I've got a VIP, a really impartant VIP")...that's fricking hilarious. Given his failures at archiving the email prior to the gmail solution, I'd totally believe that was him.

Guess they should have stuck with the basement server rather than hiring it out to some "professional" company. At least the basement server IT guy sounded reasonably competent.
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

I don't think she meant no border security at all and let whoever wants in carrying whatever they want

She certainly wasn't talking about the system we currently have, which places restrictions on who can come in. We are still naive about who we let in but we do have borders. "Open borders" isn't open to much of an interpretation. It's clear what she meant.

Having said that, maybe this is all moot. A country containing so many people who don't understand that open borders are more dangerous than what Trump said on that Access Hollywood tape is probably doomed anyway. If it's not through open borders, they'll find another way to destroy the place. The rest of us will do our best to steer clear of those cities and states that will suffer the consequences more than the rest.
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Rapid and mass migration is absolutely nothing to worry about. One just needs to look to Europe or the US southern border area to see these fears are unfounded.
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

She certainly wasn't talking about the system we currently have, which places restrictions on who can come in. We are still naive about who we let in but we do have borders. "Open borders" isn't open to much of an interpretation. It's clear what she meant.

Having said that, maybe this is all moot. A country containing so many people who don't understand that open borders are more dangerous than what Trump said on that Access Hollywood tape is probably doomed anyway. If it's not through open borders, they'll find another way to destroy the place. The rest of us will do our best to steer clear of those cities and states that will suffer the consequences more than the rest.

Is it really all that clear? "My dream is to see a unified hemisphere at some point in the future" is pretty fucking vague. "Dream" and "in the future" don't exactly point to that being a policy proposal.


I think we can reasonably expect Clinton to continue the free trade agenda of the last couple decades. Open borders, though? Can't imagine. Clinton's way too much of a pragmatist to propose that, especially since it would be political suicide. Certainly Obama didn't push for "open borders," hysterical rhetoric to the contrary.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

what proof is there of any transgression deserving of severe punishment?

how are you not satisfied after 2 years of investigations by the republicans, several dozen hours of hearings, several hundred pages of reports nobody is really going to read only to not be able to file even a misdemeanor charge?

how many more years of this BS do we have to endure before a republican finally acknowledges there is no case here, we've been through libya, benghazi, the emails, the clinton foundation donations and still nothing. like what is new



it's so disheartening to see half my country devolve into conspiracy theories as a legitimate way to voice their political opinion. what happened to presidential elections that were about differences in policies in ways to lead the country. trump can't even articulate anything about his health care policy beyond block grants to states and allowing companies to sell policies in all states at the standard of the state with the least standards. like literally all he knows about it. god i'll even take ryan paul's health care policy over this and it basically also has those two same things

i'm so fucking tired of listening about the latest sexual assault comment video and the horror and shock that follows. why can't we talk about real things instead of worry about this clown

You really show a true lack of understanding of conservatives.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Is it really all that clear? "My dream is to see a unified hemisphere at some point in the future" is pretty fucking vague. "Dream" and "in the future" don't exactly point to that being a policy proposal.


I think we can reasonably expect Clinton to continue the free trade agenda of the last couple decades. Open borders, though? Can't imagine. Clinton's way too much of a pragmatist to propose that, especially since it would be political suicide. Certainly Obama didn't push for "open borders," hysterical rhetoric to the contrary.

What makes me chuckle is no one seems to realize Bush was quietly for lax borders...just as all major establishment politicians have been for decades.
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Not sure if this has been posted. The New York Time's General Counsel response to Donald Trump's threat of a lawsuit.

https://www.scribd.com/document/327479319/Nyt-Letter
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

And #1 among Tea Party voters.




Manton should provide an updated view on this. mwink[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

There's a real false balance appeal coming out from Trump supporters right now. They understand that Trump says and does a lot of unacceptable shit, that's part of his appeal. But it bothers them that those things have political consequences.

The response, apparently, is that it's the media's fault for covering those things and hurting Trump. So that means A) the media is being unfair by covering those things B) it's especially unfair that they haven't done blanket coverage of whatever things Trump supporters don't like about Clinton, so as to balance out the effect on Trump's polling and keep him competitive.

The liberal media has defended the liberal politicians in many ways, for how many decades? The garbage they say about republicans goes on and on, and you never challenge them. The republicans with Trump are discovering things they don't like. Stepping back, and re-evaluating, if, or, if not, to vote for him, and what the consequences will be. How many democrats really evaluate the pros and cons of their party? Practically all the democrats I know of are clueless of what the people they vote for are doing. Many republicans are aware of what's happening. I don't write my dis-satisfaction of republicans much, but my dis-satisfaction of democrats politicians is far greater. Their bills are almost always sleazy. It is like, default sleaze. Why? It is like 90% has sleaze in. Republicans is like 10% sleaze in their bills. How well bills are written is a whole different subject. The democrats come across to me as the serpent telling Eve that she will be real smart if she eats this forbidden fruit. Hillary' chosen running mate is perhaps the biggest dive I've ever seen. What do you expect a large serpent to pick as a running mate?
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Originally Posted by cross22 View Post

Manton should provide an updated view on this. mwink[1].gif

On three angry man faces with an out of context sentence? I'm assuming you can link to the post and I'll make sense but why did you quote this one?
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