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The irony of the talk about the biased liberal media is that the worst thing the media ever did to conservatives in this country was give Trump billions in free media. Hateful, poly-phobic conservatives were drawn like moths to a flame and unable to support anyone else once they saw how closely Trump represented their horrible views.

I think it was motivated by profit instead of political bias but the effect is the same. Reasonable politicians like Kasich never stood a chance and the conservatives of our country got what they deserve.

I can't wait to see all the Trump supporters like "Call Sean Hannity" pretend like they never liked Trump once he loses in an epic landslide.
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

i think you overestimate their numbers Nil, they are media presence not a big voting block, bulk of Trump voters are regular working class/lower middle class folks that are disenfranchised from GOP establishment that don;t really care for them, they were not able to moblize them before Trump and there is no reason why they would in the future

Still doesn't mean they'll actually vote though. We won't know that until after the election.
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post

The irony of the talk about the biased liberal media is that the worst thing the media ever did to conservatives in this country was give Trump billions in free media. Hateful, poly-phobic conservatives were drawn like moths to a flame and unable to support anyone else once they saw how closely Trump represented their horrible views.

I think it was motivated by profit instead of political bias but the effect is the same. Reasonable politicians like Kasich never stood a chance and the conservatives of our country got what they deserve.

I can't wait to see all the Trump supporters like "Call Sean Hannity" pretend like they never liked Trump once he loses in an epic landslide.

It wasn't just free media either, they normalized Trump as a political candidate. There was one week in particular where all of the broadcast news networks seemingly simultaneously accepted Trump as the nominee and started talking horserace as normal. They all had Trump proxies on their panels, talked about Trump policies with a straight face like he was a more or less conventional politician. It gave him a huge amount of credibility and mainstream validity that he had done very little to earn.


They also have a pretty big vested interest in maintaining a close race. Blowouts are bad for ratings. When Clinton was pulling way ahead back in August, they pretty much let off Trump and dove in on the Clinton Foundation and whatever else. They uncritically accepted the hilariously low expectations for Trump for the debates.

I don't think it's deliberate, they're just chasing their financial incentives on top of having some built in biases (all campaigns must be covered as horseraces because that's what we do).
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I don't think Kasich's views changed much in the last 12 - 15+ years.  Back then he was considered pretty far to the right.  The spectrum really shifted.  I was always bewildered to hear him get referred to as the moderate in the last cycle.

 

(Yes, yes, same can be said for the left.)

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Well, Trump has certainly moved the bar. Next time a Romney type person comes along I'll dare anyone to try and frame him as sexist (BINDERS OF WOMEN!), etc. in comparison to this cycle. I think Trump is giving many folks what they secretly always thought/wanted the Repub nominee to be.
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^I agree. But will the trend continue or does the party go back to the likes of McCain and Romney? Does Paul Ryan have a chance to become the nominee in 20?
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I of course hope this will end in a big exorcism and the GOP makes the same pivot the Dems did in the 60s. Well, the pivot they made on an official basis anyway.
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I expect a lot from next debate. Trump should go to lines like: "Clintons and Bushes killed more americans than 9/11 hijackers."...
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When the alt right complain about the 'MSM' why isn't Fox News considered part of the main stream? They're one of the most watched networks.
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Because FNC happened due to an untapped niche created by the relative sameness of the MSM.
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Speaking of "son of Trump", I'm pretty sure his one or more of his kids are going to go on to be active in politics in the future.  Though I hope I'm wrong and I held a stronger view on this happening before it appeared that Trump was on the path to completely annihilating the value of his own name an brand.

Ivanka will be old enough to be president in the next cycle. About time American men had a president they could fap to.
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I know why it happens, I'm wondering how the term 'MSM' is still applicable with Fox being the most watched news channel
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Ivanka will be old enough to be president in the next cycle. About time American men had a president they could fap to.

Waiting for the leaked nudies?
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I know why it happens, I'm wondering how the term 'MSM' is still applicable with Fox being the most watched news channel

How was alternative music the biggest thing on the charts at one time?
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Ivanka will be old enough to be president in the next cycle. About time American men had a president they could fap to.


The Donald included.

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