Originally Posted by Gibonius
Lots of Presidents have been coarse in private. Trump is stupid enough, and vulgar enough, to do it as part of his public persona.
This particular incident wouldn't be that big a deal by itself. But he has a long history of deliberately making similar, if somewhat more toned down, statements in public venues. It's a character and judgement issue. Play nice for the hoi polloi if you want to be a leader. Or at least be charming about it. Trump can't pull off either.
However it's done it is so often juvenile.
As far as the American Church's go there seems to be a huge denial of some of the scriptures about nakedness and sex and what God made. Some, they don't disagree with, but, trying to get people to be responsible about sex becomes an entanglement by departure of scripture (the liberal methods). I really believe there would be half the gay people if the church didn't mess up (a stumbling block). If God made men to have certain thoughts, then that's not dirty. What a man does with those thoughts; they can add dirty thoughts, and even actions, or not. What is lust? Acknowledging a woman is beautiful, and sometimes even wanting to see her naked is not lust. Add greed to that, and now you got lust. Prepubescent children, what do they know about sex? And yet the church is accusing them of sexual interest that is wrong. The church hasn't really laid the right foundation for this subject. Building upon the sand, and what happens? Not all churchs teach sex is only for creating children. Between husband and wife have as much fun as you want within reason of the rest of life.