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millenials/students perhaps?

These people:
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A good speech? Or a speech that you agreed with?

Trick question as those are one and the same when it comes to politics.
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A good speech? Or a speech that you agreed with?

Trick question as those are one and the same when it comes to politics.

not really, I would guess many people here would appreciate Obama as a speaker but not necesarilly agree with the content
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interesting interview if you have some spare time:)
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I would guess many people here would appreciate Obama as a speaker

I never got the silver-tongue thing. Dude does not uuuhhhh impress me uuhhhh at all with his uuhhhhh speaking ability. I think a better example would be Jessie Jackson.
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I never got the silver-tongue thing. Dude does not uuuhhhh impress me uuhhhh at all with his uuhhhhh speaking ability. I think a better example would be Jessie Jackson.

Obama's good at things like convention speeches. The heavily prepared, grand oratory kind of thing.


I haven't been super impressed by most of his routine speeches while President. He's better than Bush, but nothing spectacular.
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Obama has never impressed me as a public speaker but he certainly has a following for it. I tend to suspect, as I said earlier, the biggest fans of his public speaking are just his biggest fans in general.
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 appreciate Obama as a speaker

 

From Harry Reid's book:

 

Reid, D-Nev., writes: "'That speech was phenomenal, Barack,' I told him. And I will never forget his response. Without the barest hint of braggadocio or conceit, and with what I would describe as deep humility, he said quietly: 'I have a gift, Harry.'"

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From Harry Reid's book:

 

Reid, D-Nev., writes: "'That speech was phenomenal, Barack,' I told him. And I will never forget his response. Without the barest hint of braggadocio or conceit, and with what I would describe as deep humility, he said quietly: 'I have a gift, Harry.'"


I don't know what's worse, the remark or the writing.

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Trick question as those are one and the same when it comes to politics.

Indeed.

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From Harry Reid's book:

Reid, D-Nev., writes: "'That speech was phenomenal, Barack,' I told him. And I will never forget his response. Without the barest hint of braggadocio or conceit, and with what I would describe as deep humility, he said quietly: 'I have a gift, Harry.'"

Of course Reid also said this,

The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/09/obama.reid/

And remember, Hillary too, can speak with no Negro dialect, unless she wants to have one.
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I never got the silver-tongue thing. Dude does not uuuhhhh impress me uuhhhh at all with his uuhhhhh speaking ability. I think a better example would be Jessie Jackson.

 

His ability to have almost total recall of numbers and facts on non prepared speeches impresses me.  His uhhhhhs do not

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I don't know what's worse, the remark or the writing.

Word


'I have a gift, Harry.'"? How the fuck is that not egotistical, and the complete opposite of humility? Fucking creeps.
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Mike Bloomberg, after meeting Obama for a round of golf during one of his (Obama's) money begging rounds described the presidential candidate as the most arrogant person he has ever met. Coming from Bloomberg that says something.

Regarding Obama off the cuff speeches, I once commented on his almost complete inability to express his thoughts in a sentence longer than 3 words uninterrupted by "yaa know" and was attacked for it as if I insulted a prophet. Over the last 8 years he has gained some ability to speak without a prompter and not so bad anymore. Yet, during his first run for office he was just terrible in those townhall Q and As.
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No Johnson in the debate.

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