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Dude Putin has killed more exotic dangerous animals with his bare hands than lion dentist ever did with his Remington.
post #542 of 8748
Trump released his tax plan today.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/28/trump-unveils-tax-plan-that-would-lower-taxes-for-millions/?intcmp=hpbt4

From another article:
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The simplification aspect of Trump’s plan comes from boiling the current seven rates down to four: zero percent up to $25,000 or if married and jointly earn less than $50,000, 10 percent up to $50k, 20 percent up to $150k, and 25 percent beyond that. He also lets single filers who make less than $50k pay zero percent on capital gains and dividends, to encourage small investors. There are no penalties for married filers, and a bump of roughly 50 percent for heads of household (so the zero percent rate extends to $37.500 instead of $50,000 for them, for example.) Trump was very proud of eliminating the marriage penalties built into the tax code in his press conference.
post #543 of 8748
It's a decent plan but Trump's supporters care little about policy.

He needs to keep up with outrageous BS statements if he wants to maintain and grow his support.
Edited by rnoldh - 9/28/15 at 2:20pm
post #544 of 8748
It is almost identical to the Bush plan.
post #545 of 8748
Thought experiment: if Trump is elected President and Congress maintains its current form, can President Trump actually lead the Republican Party? Are they going to force him into being a rubber stamp, or does he somehow wrangle the fractious House into place and push his own agenda instead of theirs?
post #546 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Thought experiment: if Trump is elected President and Congress maintains its current form, can President Trump actually lead the Republican Party? Are they going to force him into being a rubber stamp, or does he somehow wrangle the fractious House into place and push his own agenda instead of theirs?

Definitely not #2. Trump has nothing to lose, so he won't be a rubber stamp. #1 also doesn't seem likely.


#3 is most likely. Parts of his plans will probably get passed because he would get some of the populist left support - enough to overcome a Senate filibuster. Specifically, I could see some version of his tax plan getting passed: it is similar to most Republican plans.
post #547 of 8748
Trump would be ineffective like Ventura and Schwarzenegger were.

Personalities without any political experience generally don't do well.
post #548 of 8748
It's not the greatest idea to have ~half of the country paying zero income tax. Once they've established themselves as a voting bloc it becomes impossible to stop the cycle. Purpose a tax on them and you're a cold hearted prick who is going to lose a huge portion of the vote. As their numbers grow, politicians face a growing need to run on and implement policies they support - most of which involve entitlement spending.
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It's not the greatest idea to have ~half of the country paying zero income tax. Once they've established themselves as a voting bloc it becomes impossible to stop the cycle. Purpose a tax on them and you're a cold hearted prick who is going to lose a huge portion of the vote. As their numbers grow, politicians face a growing need to run on and implement policies they support - most of which involve entitlement spending.

Trump's plan doesn't change much from what W already implemented on that front.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/magazine/donald-trump-is-not-going-anywhere.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

fun read
post #551 of 8748
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  could he possibly be any worse than what politics in general had become?

 

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Trump’s war on political correctness is especially pleasing to many of the white voters of the G.O.P. who feel usurped by newcomers and silenced by the progressive gains that women, Hispanics and gays have enjoyed.

lol8[1].gif

Yeah, that's it. Anyone who appreciates frank discussions must have a grudge against women and brown people.
post #553 of 8748
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Originally Posted by suited View Post

It's not the greatest idea to have ~half of the country paying zero income tax. Once they've established themselves as a voting bloc it becomes impossible to stop the cycle. Purpose a tax on them and you're a cold hearted prick who is going to lose a huge portion of the vote. As their numbers grow, politicians face a growing need to run on and implement policies they support - most of which involve entitlement spending.

IMO the trend we are seeing all over the world is to offer no income tax for 50%+ of the country in order to gain/keep votes, but somehow add on higher sales tax so that in the end everyone is paying. I think it's a good idea, because for lower income people who spend all their money, the sales tax rate indirectly becomes their income tax rate.
post #554 of 8748
Who wouldn't support an America where everything is "just fantastic."

How you ask? Kickin' the shit out of China. That's how.

Hellz.

Yeah.
post #555 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Dragon View Post

IMO the trend we are seeing all over the world is to offer no income tax for 50%+ of the country in order to gain/keep votes, but somehow add on higher sales tax so that in the end everyone is paying. I think it's a good idea, because for lower income people who spend all their money, the sales tax rate indirectly becomes their income tax rate.

And it essentially makes all their savings (if they have any) tax deducible.


It works as long as the sales tax isn't being used too much to lower upper bracket taxes, I suppose.
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