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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

This is a nice twist on the omniscience, omnibenevolent, omnipotent dilemma
Only if Jeremiah was aborted. Otherwise it is just sloppy reading and reasoning.
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Only if Jeremiah was aborted. Otherwise it is just sloppy reading and reasoning.

1) I was trolling.

2) I'd like to think that it was a decent bit of trolling. So please pinpoint the sloppiness you allege--"only if Jeremiah was aborted" is itself a very sloppy response. The text unambiguously describes a temporal chain: divine foreknowledge of human to be born (probably not even on a temporal chain but outside of time) --> conception/gestation overseen by divine action --> sanctification --> birth. It's true that it's possible that this chain doesn't apply to any and all human life--maybe just special prophetic human life. But hey, maybe every human life is precious and snowflake special! If it's true that divine foreknowledge and creation applies to all human life, then please show what abortion would do to this chain of divine knowledge and earthly manifestation. Thanks.
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I mean, you could ventriloquize God as saying something like, "Before I formed you, I knew you--or, would have known you, but I also knew that you'd be aborted, so I then un-knew you." Which brings us back to the problem of abortion thwarting omnipotence for the sake of preserving omniscience.
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http://gawker.com/ivanka-trump-hanging-out-in-croatia-with-vladimir-putin-1785290129

Ivanka Trump Hanging Out in Croatia With Vladimir Putin's Girlfriend

Perfectly timed vacation IMO. No better way to show the world there's nothing to these rumors of close Trump-Putin ties.

Bulllshit Putin has better taste in pussy than that.
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Re 2. My comment was specific enough as you understood the argument completely - as you say, there is nothing in the text to indicate God is talking about anyone other than Jeremiah. Here is the full text:
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Now the word of the LORD came to me [Jeremiah]saying, 5"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations." 6Then I [Jeremiah] said . . .,
God is talking to Jeremiah about Jeremiah and cannot possibly be talking abut anyone else. This is not Moses saying "would that all the people were prophets" (or something like that) when Eldad and Medad were prophesying in the camp, although that would be a neat bit of exegesis for someone so inclined to extrapolate from Jeremiah. But that would at least require acknowledging the limits in the text before attempting to expand it.
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non-prophet fetuses matter!

on a less asinine note: i was trolling in part because american anti-abortion discourse routinely trots out that passage from jeremiah. christian anti-abortion views in america seem partly predicated on exactly that slippage that you note: making every fetus special in god's eyes.
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but mostly i was trying to get greger to shut up
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Catholics don't read bibles

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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Bulllshit Putin has better taste in pussy than that.

It's her dick sucking skills. She must have mad game.
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

It's her dick sucking skills. She must have mad game.

Aha, you have never been to Russia , I see. fing02[1].gif
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

non-prophet fetuses matter!

on a less asinine note: i was trolling in part because american anti-abortion discourse routinely trots out that passage from jeremiah. christian anti-abortion views in america seem partly predicated on exactly that slippage that you note: making every fetus special in god's eyes.
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but mostly i was trying to get greger to shut up
This morning, I was discussing William Safire's "On Language" column with my daughter. I don't remember one on "trotting out Prophets" but his political dictionary does deal with "trotting out ghosts". If his ghost were still working, I would suggest she ask it to write an entry on the day discourses became sentient.
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Aha, you have never been to Russia , I see. fing02[1].gif


Please share.  And I say this as someone who is likely to never say that to you ever again.

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Coworker bought a BeDazzler kit for our boss as a gag gift for his birthday. Imagine our surprise after wondering who the Hell "Tana from National TV" is, finding out she is a senior campaign adviser for Trump.



I feel like this may explain so much.
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Apparently Guiliani mentioned 9/11 so many times during his run for President that he's since forgotten about it.

Rudy Giuliani, mayor of NYC on 9/11: "Before Obama, we didn't have any successful radical Islamic attacks in the US"


edit: if you watch the whole clip it's not quite as stupid, but still a ridiculous assertion.
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

http://gawker.com/ivanka-trump-hanging-out-in-croatia-with-vladimir-putin-1785290129

Ivanka Trump Hanging Out in Croatia With Vladimir Putin's Girlfriend

Perfectly timed vacation IMO. No better way to show the world there's nothing to these rumors of close Trump-Putin ties.

So . . . what's the allure of this Wendy character? She bounces from one billionaire to another. Nice work if you can get it I guess.
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Didn't know Trump has semi supported internment camps before. 'FDR did it and he's one of the most liked presidents'
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