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75% of Americans supported the withdraw in 2011. I don't think it was really politically viable to leave any substantial number of troops there indefinitely.


Obama followed the will of the American people, the will of the Iraqi people, and the withdrawal agreement established by Bush in 2008. Obama bears some responsibility for how that turned out, since it was implemented on his watch and he could have pushed to change the status of forces agreement. But, on balance it was a situations not of his creation with no good answers. How long could we really have stayed to hold the gaping hole in the Iraqi state closed?
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1) Except abortions. Then we need more laws against them.Also - what IDs you need for voting.
2) Also more laws against drugs.
etc.

1 & 2- good people don't get abortions, nor, get high on drugs.
post #4983 of 8748

It looks like he should speak for himself.
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If I'm not mistaken, he also pulled out slower than was originally agreed to.

post #4985 of 8748
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That is a bit of over the top. Obama couldn't possibly have known that his decision to withdraw troops from Iraq would lead to large parts of it being taken over by terrorists.

That's right. Obama is not smart enough to think ahead.
post #4986 of 8748
Doubling down on stupidity:

Hugh Hewitt: I’ve got two more questions. Last night, you said the President was the founder of ISIS. I know what you meant. You meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace.

Trump: No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.
post #4987 of 8748
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1 & 2- good people don't get abortions, nor, get high on drugs.

Anyone else want to handle this? Or are you guys just ignoring him now
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75% of Americans supported the withdraw in 2011. I don't think it was really politically viable to leave any substantial number of troops there indefinitely.

As if the public opinion were not influenced by the president promising for years and years how it would be done without leading to catastrophe.
post #4989 of 8748
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Anyone else want to handle this? Or are you guys just ignoring him now

I, for one, am glad that we have social conservatives like greger around to be the absolute arbiters of morality, which is the unquestioned foundation of our system of laws. It's refreshing to have such clarity in an uncertain world.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

If I'm not mistaken, he also pulled out slower than was originally agreed to.

Typical black man.
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Anyone else want to handle this? Or are you guys just ignoring him now

At one time people didn't get abortions, so, no laws. How did that happen? I suppose your answer how wet behind the ears you are.

I gotta run. Won't be looking here for awhile. You guys can breathe a sigh of relief.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Obama followed the will of the American people
And if Trump is elected, it will have been the will of the American people. We're not so smart, sometimes.
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At one time people didn't get abortions
Isn't there evidence of cavemen dropping unwanted babies off of cliffs? So... I guess not technically abortion...
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And if Trump is elected, it will have been the will of the American people. We're not so smart, sometimes.

The President shouldn't be a slave to public opinion, but at some point the President needs to have the will of the people behind him to continue a war.

I don't know that you can really construct a case for any kind of "optimal" time to leave Iraq. Was there any reason, at the time, to think that an extra year (or five years) was going to make the difference?

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Isn't there evidence of cavemen dropping unwanted babies off of cliffs?

Plato wrote about techniques of abortion. The Romans were all over it, supposedly driving several abortifacient herbs to extinction.
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They just let the weak die. . . They did it to the oldies too.
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