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When the story broke, the local right-wing radio said there was a video, too, so I doubt Trump made it up himself. Or maybe they got it from him.

You keep hearing snippets of Trump sounding like a buffoon because he speaks extemporaneously for 12 hours a day. It's an interesting contrast to his opponent, who rarely if ever goes off script.

ETA: I also like how the controversy here is about whether Trump saw a video of the hostages or of the cash, and not how Obama paid Iran billions of dollars.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

When the story broke, the local right-wing radio said there was a video, too, so I doubt Trump made it up himself. Or maybe they got it from him.

You keep hearing snippets of Trump sounding like a buffoon because he speaks extemporaneously for 12 hours a day. It's an interesting contrast to his opponent, who rarely if ever goes off script.

ETA: I also like how the controversy here is about whether Trump saw a video of the hostages or of the cash, and not how Obama paid Iran billions of dollars.


Well, if there is a big controversy about the Iran payment, I don't think that means that Trump can freely claim to have seen secret Iranian spy tapes (that don't exist and which he did not see), or that  Iranian secret agents contacted him with a list of the reasons why they really hate and don't respect Obama but are super scared of and really respect Trump, or any other delusional bullshit story that pops into his head as his mouth is moving.  The one doesn't excuse the other.

 

Meanwhile the $400 million payment was clearly disclosed back in January and only the fact that this payment was delivered in cash is news.  But I personally really would just prefer to focus on Trump being utterly incapable of controlling what comes out of his mouth.

 

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010

 

(Btw, yeah, he made it up himself apparently - nobody else has any idea where he yanked this shit-nugget from)

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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post


My wife is related to Henry "I'd rather be right than president" Clay. I'll gladly sacrifice political points to call a spade a spade. The US military is engaged in operations that meet any reasonable definition of "terrorism".


Just as long as you're aware you're turning people off to your ideology.  Interesting that someone who is so pro Johnson when he is a mediocre libertarian (or Libertarian) at best has such a rabid "as long as I'm right" mentality.

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Hillary is involved with how many murders called abortion? Yet, some of you are afraid of Trump. But Hillary is a terrorist to every unborn child.

About Muslims, what do we Westerners know about this religion? How many good Muslims, and yet their children ran off to be terrorist? There religion seems to be open to that. How many US citizens who are Muslims ran off to be terrorist will be coming back as what? Upstanding citizens? Or, terrorist? Trump has said basically lets not let in new ones until we know more about what Muslims are so we can have appropriate laws. We have seen in some counties where they had enough votes to make religious laws, and punishing those who disagree, which judges have struck down. Some of them have religious views that are a threat to everyone who disagrees with them. I respect the ones who come here for freedom. The ones that don't respect freedom don't belong here.
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Well, if there is a big controversy about the Iran payment, I don't think that means that Trump can freely claim to have seen secret Iranian spy tapes (that don't exist and which he did not see), or that  Iranian secret agents contacted him with a list of the reasons why they really hate and don't respect Obama but are super scared of and really respect Trump, or any other delusional bullshit story that pops into his head as his mouth is moving.  The one doesn't excuse the other.

Meanwhile the $400 million payment was clearly disclosed back in January and only the fact that this payment was delivered in cash is news.  But I personally really would just prefer to focus on Trump being utterly incapable of controlling what comes out of his mouth.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/that-400-million-secret-payment-to-iran-isnt-quite-wha-1784775010

(Btw, yeah, he made it up himself apparently - nobody else has any idea where he yanked this shit-nugget from)
The cash payment makes sense once you realize that the Iranians still aren't allowed to do shit with dollars and that your government needs to do the payment. They can't ask the US banks as they still aren't connected via swift to the Iranians, so they simply exchange dollars with friendly central banks into euros, Swiss francs etc..
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you maybe should check who USA supported in Syria and what political game in Syria is Clinton willing to perpetuate before making out of yuor ass claims next time

Not meaning to pick on you here, but because you mentioned this it's worth bringing up (though more appropriate for ME thread)
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£1bn of weapons flowing from Europe to Middle East

Eastern European countries have approved the discreet sale of more than €1bn of weapons in the past four years to Middle Eastern countries that are known to ship arms to Syria, an investigation has found.

Thousands of assault rifles such as AK-47s, mortar shells, rocket launchers, anti-tank weapons and heavy machine guns are being routed through a new arms pipeline from the Balkans to the Arabian peninsula and countries bordering Syria.

The suspicion is that much of the weaponry is being sent into Syria, fuelling the five-year civil war, according to a team of reporters from the Balkan Investigative Reporting Network (BIRN) and the Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP).

Arms export data, UN reports, plane tracking, and weapons contracts examined during a year-long investigation reveal how the munitions were sent east from Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Slovakia, Serbia and Romania.


Rights groups condemn removal of Saudi Arabia from UN blacklist
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Since the escalation of the Syrian conflict in 2012, the eight countries have approved €1.2bn (£1bn) of weapons and ammunition exports to Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Turkey – key arms markets for Syria and Yemen.

In the past, the region had virtually no track record of buying from central and eastern Europe. But purchases appear to be escalating, with some of the biggest deals approved in 2015.
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‏@realDonaldTrump
The plane I saw on television was the hostage plane in Geneva, Switzerland, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash going to Iran!

oh ok
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

Not meaning to pick on you here, but because you mentioned this it's worth bringing up (though more appropriate for ME thread)

Nothing more than continuation of (NATO) Washington policies in the ME. Iraq army was re-equipped by US with Bulgarian arms (it was cheaper). What makes you think they will start doing something else when they need to equip Assad's enemies.... The insinuation of yours that these E. European countries are just doing their own arms business with closest US allies without approval and coordination with Washington is laughable.
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Why is CNN posting pictures of a Trump rally in an article about basketballs?

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Just as long as you're aware you're turning people off to your ideology.  Interesting that someone who is so pro Johnson when he is a mediocre libertarian (or Libertarian) at best has such a rabid "as long as I'm right" mentality.

 

1. Go read the Stanford/NYU report.

2. Report back here whether you consider the operations described therein as terrorism.  Justify your answer in your own words.

3. Explain why you think lying - or suppressing the truth - is an effective strategy for turning people on to your ideology ("it works for Bush, Obama, Clinton and Trump" is not an acceptable answer).

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lol cheap bastards
they edited the photos now http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/03/trumps-jacksonville-rally-draws-15000/
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post
 

 

1. Go read the Stanford/NYU report.

2. Report back here whether you consider the operations described therein as terrorism.  Justify your answer in your own words.

3. Explain why you think lying - or suppressing the truth - is an effective strategy for turning people on to your ideology ("it works for Bush, Obama, Clinton and Trump" is not an acceptable answer).


Explain to me why you think any libertarian should support Gary Johnson when he favors mandatory GMO labeling, favors anti-discrimination laws (and said in a debate Jews should be forced to bake Nazi cakes), and his running mate  has consistently supported more gun control laws.  Heck just look at their town hall, where they said government needs to get more involved in educating and finding jobs for people to solve the BLM problem.

 

I have already explained my reasoning.  Under the broadest definitions, all military action is definitionly terrorism; however, that broad of a definition renders the term meaningless.  The way I would categorize terrorism is by asking the question "Is the primary aim of the action to cause fear and terror in a civilian population?"  The answer in the cases of Iraq and Afghanistan are no, unless you have some knowledge to the contrary.  I don't think anyone has said the primary purpose of the government or military was to cause widespread fear and terror in the poor dirt farmers of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a46893/double-trouble-clint-and-scott-eastwood/
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ESQ: But if the choice is between her and Trump, what do you do?

CE: That's a tough one, isn't it? I'd have to go for Trump … you know, 'cause she's declared that she's gonna follow in Obama's footsteps. There's been just too much funny business on both sides of the aisle. She's made a lot of dough out of being a politician. I gave up dough to be a politician. I'm sure that Ronald Reagan gave up dough to be a politician.

Gary Busey has some company now
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Originally Posted by greger View Post

Hillary is involved with how many murders called abortion? Yet, some of you are afraid of Trump. But Hillary is a terrorist to every unborn child.

Uhh what? Since when are all abortions Hillary's fault?

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