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Ed Rogers was on TV right now alleging that a "mutiny" is brewing in the Trump camp and that RNC has lawyers going through its bylaws on what it would take to replace him as nominee crazy.gif I'm the classic "more liberal than conservatives and more conservative than liberals" and its sad to see such an important event for our country become such a joke on both sides, although the GOP seems to want to outcrazy everyone. Its sad that we got to the point where our choice for president is between two megalomaniacs and sad that the RNC has allowed the fringe to come in and get the party into this situation.

You go back about a dozen presidency's and you won't find three consecutive terms by the same party, for some reason or other I've found comfort in that. You dislike someone/party and you figure 2 terms is the most you would be dealing with it but the Republicans are setting the country up for the Dems to run the table for the next decade at least, and regardless of what party affiliation you are, not having change at the White House for many years can not be good for the country.
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Trump should pivot against all establishment in both parties and name them my name. I believe he should go for broke and run against both his own GOP establishment as well as DEM. Currently it has a taste of squabbles within GOP , not good. He should send the message to the electorate that vote for him is a FUCK you vote against both parties entrenched operators.
Something along the lines of: Once in a lifetime chance to send a FUCK you message to establishment of both parties. Vote Trump 2016.
He does not exploit enough the disgust of independents with the two-party system which is truly tired and played out.
Some Superpac should run adds to this effect.
Edited by Medwed - 8/3/16 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Ed Rogers was on TV right now alleging that a "mutiny" is brewing in the Trump camp and that RNC has lawyers going through its bylaws on what it would take to replace him as nominee crazy.gif I'm the classic "more liberal than conservatives and more conservative than liberals" and its sad to see such an important event for our country become such a joke on both sides, although the GOP seems to want to outcrazy everyone. Its sad that we got to the point where our choice for president is between two megalomaniacs and sad that the RNC has allowed the fringe to come in and get the party into this situation.

I feel this way when I see Democrats spiking the football in celebration. First of all, Trump hasn't lost yet. And second, it's good for the country to have two strong and viable parties. I have no idea where the Democratic party would go if the Republicans really end up imploding. One party rule isn't good for the country.

You can see a good analogy in some of the more liberal states: Massachusetts, Maryland, California, etc. People are more often than not happy with Democratic leadership, but they always end up bringing in a Republican eventually. It helps balance things out.

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You go back about a dozen presidency's and you won't find three consecutive terms by the same party, for some reason or other I've found comfort in that.

Reagan and then George HW Bush. But yeah, it's generally true. I'm not entirely how sure it holds, considering many of them ended because of external events or scandals.
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Trump should pivot against all establishment in both parties and name them my name. I believe he should go for broke and run against both his own GOP establishment as well as DEM. Currently it has a taste of squabbles within GOP , not good. He should send the message to the electorate that vote for him is a FUCK you vote against both parties entrenched operators.
Something along the lines of: Once in a lifetime chance to send a FUCK you message to establishment of both parties. Vote Trump 2016.
He does not exploit enough the disgust of independents with the two-party system which is truly tired and played out.
Some Superpac should run adds to this effect.

 

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Meg Whitman just announced she will vote for and donate money to Clinton.
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

 its sad to see such an important event for our country become such a joke on both sides

 

Do you have one hour to devote to "serious"?

 

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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Trump should pivot against all establishment in both parties and name them my name. I believe he should go for broke and run against both his own GOP establishment as well as DEM. Currently it has a taste of squabbles within GOP , not good. He should send the message to the electorate that vote for him is a FUCK you vote against both parties entrenched operators.
Something along the lines of: Once in a lifetime chance to send a FUCK you message to establishment of both parties. Vote Trump 2016.
He does not exploit enough the disgust of independents with the two-party system which is truly tired and played out.
Some Superpac should run adds to this effect.

I've wondered why he hasn't embraced the fact that some republicans don't like him. An easy response to why people in his own party are rebuking him would be that Americans are fed up with both parties and any candidate that's listening to the people should be getting flak from his own party.
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And second, it's good for the country to have more than two strong and viable parties.

 

FIFY

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In October 1992 Perot was polling far lower than Johnson is polling now.  Yet the media treated Perot as an equal with GWHB and WJC.

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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Trump should pivot against all establishment in both parties and name them my name. I believe he should go for broke and run against both his own GOP establishment as well as DEM. Currently it has a taste of squabbles within GOP , not good. He should send the message to the electorate that vote for him is a FUCK you vote against both parties entrenched operators.
Something along the lines of: Once in a lifetime chance to send a FUCK you message to establishment of both parties. Vote Trump 2016.
He does not exploit enough the disgust of independents with the two-party system which is truly tired and played out.
Some Superpac should run adds to this effect.


Your Trump is not doing this (whatever it is you think he should do) because that's not the Trump he is.  The Trump he is is the Trump that can't keep his finger out of his eye for more than 24 hours or so and who is an erratic, mentally unbalanced, sociopath.  He simply cannot help himself.  Maybe he's cracking under the pressure of the campaign.  With an ego that frail, it's hard to wonder what the loss will do to him.  

 

Also, many people - believe it or not - would prefer to keep up the status quo than elect a deranged autocrat maniac simply to send a fuck you out to the two party system.  

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In October 1992 Perot was polling far lower than Johnson is polling now.  Yet the media treated Perot as an equal with GWHB and WJC.

And a dead gorilla recently polled only 1% behind Johnson.
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Harambe lives matter?
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I don't care.

There are very few things he could possibly say or do that would make me think maybe Hillary is the better choice.

As it was beaten to death here, Hillary is known to be pile of shit, I'd gamble Trump won't be worse. But hey you can't know, it''s a gamble.

Yes I can understand why people say Trump could be even worse than Hillary on some practical issues. In fact I'm more liberal than most people here, im probably aligned more with Bernie Sanders in terms of views/policy if we speak about % of all ideas.

But there isn't anything I despise more than path today's western culture is on, path to oversensitive, femninised and sucidal society. I think it will be our demise to some extent, we will become too soft like society in Demolition Man or Sweden lol8[1].gif. Voting in Trump is a global fuck you to that, he doesn't need do anything he just needs to be an asshole he is. West needs a cultural push to the right(no in terms of religion). I'd wager electing Trump would help that.

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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Trump should pivot against all establishment in both parties and name them my name. I believe he should go for broke and run against both his own GOP establishment as well as DEM. Currently it has a taste of squabbles within GOP , not good. He should send the message to the electorate that vote for him is a FUCK you vote against both parties entrenched operators.
Something along the lines of: Once in a lifetime chance to send a FUCK you message to establishment of both parties. Vote Trump 2016.
He does not exploit enough the disgust of independents with the two-party system which is truly tired and played out.
Some Superpac should run adds to this effect.

So basically you want to vote for a human fuck you to all the ideas you don't like. What a great way to express your disapproval. That's going to definitely change things around here
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So basically you want to vote for a human fuck you to all the ideas you don't like

I'd love to see some polling on what % of online Trump supporters don't actually live in the US. And/or are 14 year olds on 4chan.



I'd love to hear what the endgame for how voting for Trump repudiates feminism or political correctness. Do they think electing a gross scumbag is going to make people less inclined to those ideals? Best case scenario you get eight years of an asshole in the White House, then an almost certain correction in the other direction.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post


So basically you want to vote for a human fuck you to all the ideas you don't like. What a great way to express your disapproval. That's going to definitely change things around here

You cannot change the system by using the thinking that created it.
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