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Do sitting presidents usually insult the other party's candidate while in foreign countries? Hasn't there traditionally been a non-spoken rule about doing such things?
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Do sitting presidents usually insult the other party's candidate while in foreign countries? Hasn't there traditionally been a non-spoken rule about doing such things?

They should not, 'politics stops at the waters edge'
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Do sitting presidents usually insult the other party's candidate while in foreign countries? Hasn't there traditionally been a non-spoken rule about doing such things?

These old rules do not apply to exceptionally cool E-channel president.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Do sitting presidents usually insult the other party's candidate while in foreign countries? Hasn't there traditionally been a non-spoken rule about doing such things?

 

It only applies to candidates in a presidential election. But even if that weren't the case Lee Hsien Loong is in the US


Edited by Rumpelstiltskin - 8/2/16 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

They should not, 'politics stops at the waters edge'

In 2012 Romney went abroad and criticized Obama in various countries.

The gloves have been off that for awhile now.

As for Trump...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-kicks-out-baby-rally-226566
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Trump boots baby from Virginia rally

Donald Trump asked a woman with a crying baby to leave his rally in Ashburn, Virginia on Tuesday.

The GOP nominee initially suggested that he did not mind the disruption.

“Don’t worry about that baby. I love babies," Trump said after hearing the baby crying during an aside about the trade imbalance. "Don’t worry about it. I love babies. I hear that baby crying, I like it. What a baby. What a beautiful baby. Don’t worry, don’t worry. The mom’s running around like—don’t worry about it, you know. It’s young and beautiful and healthy and that’s what we want.”

Trump then returned to his non-baby-related remarks, only to hear the baby make more noise.

“They have ripped us to shreds, ripped us absolutely to shreds," Trump said of China, before turning back to the woman with the child.

“Actually, I was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here," the Republican nominee said to laughter and applause. "That’s all right. Don’t worry. I, I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I’m speaking. That’s OK. People don’t understand. That’s OK."
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^ Romney wasn't president though. I expect more out of a sitting president than I do a candidate.
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Very eloquent statement from John McCain.

http://www.johnmccain.com/statement-john-mccain-regarding-khan-family/


Phoenix, AZ– John McCain issued the following statement today regarding Donald Trump’s comments about Khizr and Ghazala Khan, the parents of U.S. Army Captain Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq in 2004:
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“The Republican Party I know and love is the party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and Ronald Reagan.

“I wear a bracelet bearing the name of a fallen hero, Matthew Stanley, which his mother, Lynn, gave me in 2007, at a town hall meeting in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire. His memory and the memory of our great leaders deserve better from me.

“In recent days, Donald Trump disparaged a fallen soldier’s parents. He has suggested that the likes of their son should not be allowed in the United States — to say nothing of entering its service. I cannot emphasize enough how deeply I disagree with Mr. Trump’s statement. I hope Americans understand that the remarks do not represent the views of our Republican Party, its officers, or candidates.

“Make no mistake: I do not valorize our military out of some unfamiliar instinct. I grew up in a military family, and have my own record of service, and have stayed closely engaged with our armed forces throughout my public career. In the American system, the military has value only inasmuch as it protects and defends the liberties of the people.

“My father was a career naval officer, as was his father. For hundreds of years, every generation of McCains has served the United States in uniform.

“My sons serve today, and I’m proud of them. My youngest served in the war that claimed Captain Khan’s life as well as in Afghanistan. I want them to be proud of me. I want to do the right thing by them and their comrades.

“Humayun Khan did exactly that — and he did it for all the right reasons. This accomplished young man was not driven to service as a United States Army officer because he was compelled to by any material need. He was inspired as a young man by his reading of Thomas Jefferson — and he wanted to give back to the country that had taken him and his parents in as immigrants when he was only two years old.

“Captain Khan’s death in Iraq, on June 8th, 2004, was a shining example of the valor and bravery inculcated into our military. When a suicide bomber accelerated his vehicle toward a facility with hundreds of American soldiers, Captain Khan ordered his subordinates away from the danger.

“Then he ran toward it.

“The suicide bomber, striking prematurely, claimed the life of Captain Khan — and Captain Khan, through his selfless action and sacrifice, saved the lives of hundreds of his brothers and sisters.

“Scripture tells us that ‘Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.’

“Captain Humayun Khan of the United States Army showed in his final moments that he was filled and motivated by this love. His name will live forever in American memory, as an example of true American greatness.

“In the end, I am morally bound to speak only to the things that command my allegiance, and to which I have dedicated my life’s work: the Republican Party, and more importantly, the United States of America. I will not refrain from doing my utmost by those lights simply because it may benefit others with whom I disagree.

“I claim no moral superiority over Donald Trump. I have a long and well-known public and private record for which I will have to answer at the Final Judgment, and I repose my hope in the promise of mercy and the moderation of age. I challenge the nominee to set the example for what our country can and should represent.

“Arizona is watching. It is time for Donald Trump to set the example for our country and the future of the Republican Party. While our Party has bestowed upon him the nomination, it is not accompanied by unfettered license to defame those who are the best among us.

“Lastly, I’d like to say to Mr. and Mrs. Khan: thank you for immigrating to America. We’re a better country because of you. And you are certainly right; your son was the best of America, and the memory of his sacrifice will make us a better nation – and he will never be forgotten.”
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McCain should apologise to Khan family for comparing them to islamic terrorists and suicide bombers.
Edited by Medwed - 8/2/16 at 2:43pm
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I disagree with McCain on most issues, and I thought he was an awful candidate in 2008, but he's right on here.  If there's one thing that can truly sink Trump, it is badmouthing a dead soldier.  Trump has proven he can get broad swaths of Republicans to not even pay lip service to limited government, free trade, and private property rights, but a respect/love for the military is a thread that binds 99% of all Republicans.

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Trump has stated that he doesn't drink or use drugs.

He would never lie, would he?

A little Adderall goes a long way.
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This stuff is just so dumb on Trump's part. He has nothing to gain by attacking any of the non-politicians who spoke at the DNC, but especially the military. But he can't help himself, so he goes on a week long tirade.

It couldn't have been better scripted from the DNC's point of view. They actually had the "baited by a Tweet" line in Hillary's speech. Trump's anger and volatility and divisiveness were main themes. And he just plays right into it, immediately.



Potentially related, but Trump's post convention bounce disappeared in the recent polls and Hillary is up 5-7%.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

If there's one thing that can truly sink Trump, it is badmouthing a dead soldier. 

Well then you should go online and demand Trump apologised to the dead soldier for whatever that is you imagine he said about him.
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

^ Romney wasn't president though. I expect more out of a sitting president than I do a candidate.

 

 

 

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I don't think his supporters care. A military mom asked a question at Mike Pences speech a night ago (regarding trumps negative comments towards the military on several occosasions), and got boo'ed for it.

I thought pence actually handled it very well - thanked her for her sons service, and told the crowd to stop, and that 'this is what freedom looks like'; an open dialogue.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Let's face it: voters skew white except for Dems.

Hmm. I just went and Googled this. Dems skew white too (60% or so non-Hispanic white, and then 13% Hispanic which will include the Whisp cadre.)

So, voters skew white in general.
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