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post #4531 of 8748
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Originally Posted by cross22 View Post

I was leaning towards voting for Johnson just to stir the bullshit two party system, but douchebags like you are giving me second thoughts.

At least you'll have this insult to look back on when one of your loved ones is killed in the neocons' next illegitimate war.
post #4532 of 8748
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

At least you'll have this insult to look back on when one of your loved ones is killed in the neocons' next illegitimate war.

Lolz! I am very happy with my voting record so far. If you think your loved ones are going to get killed because of the way I vote I am ok with that.
post #4533 of 8748
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

At least you'll have this insult to look back on when one of your loved ones is killed in the neocons' next illegitimate war.

Lol. The familiar fall-back.
post #4534 of 8748
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Lol. The familiar fall-back.

It's an especially stupid argument because the vast majority of people are not losing anybody in these wars. The military draws from a pretty limited swath of the country. Your average Hillary supporter has a pretty small change of having any of their family join the military at all, much less die in a war. War is a thing poor people die for. That, in and of itself, is a big argument against our interventionist foreign policy. But "ur kids are gunna die" is not a very effective argument.

And these days, very few soldiers are dying in interventions. It's all drones and air power. It doesn't look like any Americans died in the Libyan intervention. One American died in an accident in the Syria campaign. We've had 14 in Iraq in the last two years.
post #4535 of 8748
Harambe the gorilla is polling at 5% against Trump and Clinton.



Gary Johnson in 3rd with 6%.
post #4536 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Harambe the gorilla is polling at 5% against Trump and Clinton.



Gary Johnson in 3rd with 6%.

Harambe was honest and honorable,

The question is, who does he draw more votes from?

AAMOF, do Harambe ( let's call him write-in Harambe, plus Gary Johnson, and Jill Stein ) draw more votes in toto, from Trump or Clinton?
post #4537 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

It doesn't look like any Americans died in the Libyan intervention.

Not quite, I think we lost an Ambassador. Pretty sure he was murikan.
post #4538 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

It's an especially stupid argument because the vast majority of people are not losing anybody in these wars. The military draws from a pretty limited swath of the country. Your average Hillary supporter has a pretty small change of having any of their family join the military at all, much less die in a war. War is a thing poor people die for. That, in and of itself, is a big argument against our interventionist foreign policy. But "ur kids are gunna die" is not a very effective argument.

And these days, very few soldiers are dying in interventions. It's all drones and air power. It doesn't look like any Americans died in the Libyan intervention. One American died in an accident in the Syria campaign. We've had 14 in Iraq in the last two years.

lives of brown people matter too, and whole migrant crisis and spike in terrorism is laregly due to usa's foreign policy in the ME. Additionally cost of these wars to the tax payer are in trillion of dollars. So you're right about that Hillary supporter is not likely to get killed in those wars, but there's plently of other good reason to avoid them.
Edited by wojt - 8/1/16 at 4:08am
post #4539 of 8748
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

lives of brown people matter too, and whole migrant and spike in terrorism crisis is largely due to usa's foreign policy in the ME. Additionally cost of these wars to the tax payer are in trillion of dollars. So you're right about that Hillary Supporter is not likely to get killed in those wars, but there's plenty of other good reason to avoid them.

He is doubly correct (unintentionally as often happens) that Trump supporters are more likely to die while serving in the military than Hillary's.

The Mr Sharia Khan ploy continues, now bunch of Clinton's shills are demanding all sort of apologies from Trump, not clear for what even to themselves, but that does not stop the DNC disgusting cry for Khan's family sacrifice.
I have never heard quite perverse framing of an issue. When did a loss of a loved one in a war became "Family sacrifice"? WTF is that? Are we back to 3rd Century?
His father in his atavistic frame of mind thinks that just like fathers of suicide bombers he has a right to lionise himself and his family and talk down to anyone who have not had that, so called "sacrifice" afflicting their clan.

Trump is a fucking moron, for missing golden opportunity to use this DNC ploy to his advantage. There were so many opportunities there.
To use family loss to gain political points against opponent, vintage soulless Hillary.
To chastise Trump for trying to block islamic terrorists from entering the US , the same islamic radicals that killed their son.
To loose their son to radical islamist while supporting Hillary who wants to let more of them into the country.

He could have made so many digs at Hillary and use this sham against her , but he failed as he does when he shoots his big stupid mouth.
Edited by Medwed - 8/1/16 at 4:30am
post #4540 of 8748
^ Please get counseling. For fuck's sake already.
post #4541 of 8748
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

I'm voting for Johnson. Get beyond binary thinking.

right this of course will fix everything. voting for somebody polling at 6%. good job thinking outside the box. so proud of you
post #4542 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Not quite, I think we lost an Ambassador. Pretty sure he was murikan.

Pretty sure that didn't happen during the military intervention.


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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

right this of course will fix everything. voting for somebody polling at 6%. good job thinking outside the box. so proud of you

Voting for third parties is so edgy. You get to vote for someone with no chance of winning who can be ideologically pure because they have no chance of winning and actually having to implement their policies.
post #4543 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Pretty sure that didn't happen during the military intervention.

Since military intervention was done by French and GB no americans were harmed, you are unintentionally correct again.
post #4544 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Since military intervention was done by French and GB no americans were harmed, you are unintentionally correct again.

What the actual fuck are you talking about?


The ambassador wasn't killed during the military intervention. Why did you bring it up, since it's not related?
post #4545 of 8748
Trump needs to stop making me like him. His response to the Khans has been spot-on.

Do you like it when your leaders fall for a transparently political emotional con (khan?) Apparently the people who've given power to the GOP establishment over the last 5 years do... I like it when someone has the balls to push back against it, knowing he wont have cover from leftist media.


The sheer mental bandwidth required to spin an anti-trump identify-politics narrative out of the Khan affair is breathtaking:

"Some Muslim parents are upset because their Muslim child was killed by Muslims in a war we're fighting because Muslims attacked Americans. Let's turn this into an anti-Trump message. By the way pops is an immigration lawyer. And there is this inconvenient fact that fewer Muslim service members have been killed in action (appx 13) than the number of service members that have been killed by their Muslim colleagues when they went full jihadi (appx 15.) Also, Trump was and is against the war that got Khan Jr killed."

"None of that shit will stick with soccer mom swing voters in Ohio. They are concerned about Trumps mean words. Push the narrative!"
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