Originally Posted by indesertum
I feel like if O'Reilly said 12 he would've said 12. Doesn't really give me confidence that he knows what he's talking about or really if there is even anything going on in his head. He just has this vague notion that there should be a minimum wage, it should or shouldn't be higher, the Feds should maybe set a higher one, but let the states decide. I don't think he has any clue on how to actually implement this or how he would even get a bill past the house or senate
if you gave trump a policy briefing would he be even able to understand it? if there was evidence his views are wrong would he be able to admit he's wrong and switch? cuz i feel like he would only accept "facts" that endorse whatever new conspiracy he thinks of next
Originally Posted by brokencycle
Yes, perhaps so. I don't care really. Just disappointed that the article I read when I made my original comment was fake. With all the shit trump says it isn't needed.
A small part of my libertarianism thinks a trump might not be so bad if your hypothesis is true. Government grinding to a halt is better than bipartisan patriot acts and the like.
Let's break this down a little because I'm not sure what article you saw or what was fake about it:
O'REILLY: There has to be a federal minimum wage.
TRUMP: They do. They do.
O'REILLY: What would you set the federal minimum wage at?
TRUMP: There doesn't have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat. You need to help people. And I know it's not very Republican to say.
O'REILLY: Well, give me 10 bucks?
TRUMP: I would say 10. I would say 10.
O'REILLY: All right.
TRUMP: But, with the understanding that somebody like me is going to bring back jobs, I don't want people to be in that $10 category for very long. But, the thing is, Bill, let the states make the deal.
Yes, he says 10 bucks (agrees with line he is given) but he also clearly indicates there doesn't have to be a federal minimum wage and that the states, rather than the federal government, should address the minimum wage issue. Which means his response (1) seems to be a nod in favor of raising the federal minimum wage to $10/hour, (2) but also suggests no federal minimum wage is an idea Trump can get behind, and (3) letting the "states make the deal" means no increase in the federal minimum wage at all. Maybe the federal minimum wage is a floor that can't be lowered by the states. Maybe not -- "there doesn't have to be". He's catching himself after repeating "they do. they do." in response to a previous question. He's responding to "there has to be a federal minimum minimum wage."
Originally Posted by suited
But he said $10. I watched that show, it was a clouded answer but that shouldn't surprise anyone. He's running for office. What do you think the federal minimum wage should be?
I realize this is important to people who make minimum wage, but considering the consequences of other issues, what we pay people who work at McDonalds isn't at the top of my list of concerns.
We need to get back to the important issues like roving bands of dark people burning down our cities and raping our women.
Originally Posted by Medwed
All this talk about minimum wage is as useless as talks about abortion. Who the fuck can live on minimum wage of 8.00, 10.00 or 14.00 an hour-it is still poverty.
Do we need government mandated minimum wage or do we need workers to organise and demand better wages from employers? Would not organised labor be in line with "Free market" mantra we hear day in and day out?
What is preventing workers from organising? Probably the same government that double-talks about minimum wage.
[Edited - brain cannot even compute the above.]
Edited by budapest12 - 7/28/16 at 4:25am