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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

he just says whatever he thinks will get him more votes. i dont understand how you can trust whatever comes out of his mouth


I think he has a rare disease where the speech part of his brain is disconnected from the rest of his brain, so he just talks without any idea what he is saying or why.

 

Also, it isn't new to politicians.  It is just he does it with surprising quickness.

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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

he just says whatever he thinks will get him more votes. i dont understand how you can trust whatever comes out of his mouth

He is the first politician to attempt this. I wonder if it will ever become common?
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maybe what bothers me is the frequency? feels like his views change 180 depending on who's asking the question
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post
 


I think he has a rare disease where the speech part of his brain is disconnected from the rest of his brain, so he just talks without any idea what he is saying or why.

 

Also, it isn't new to politicians.  It is just he does it with surprising quickness.


Obviously I have a bias but I really think the guy is just diagnosable narcissistic psychopath.  He's also probably been chafing a bit the last few days with the DNC taking the spotlight off of him for a little while -- felt the need to get some attention after a couple of days of lower press coverage.

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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

maybe what bothers me is the frequency? feels like his views change 180 depending on who's asking the question

See above.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Did you see the articles about his time on O'Reilly?  He took three positions on minimum wage in the space of two minutes.

Did you see the actual transcript? Trump said keep the federal minimum wage about where it is, or modestly increase it, and let the states raise theirs further if they want. Those aren't three different positions.
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

he just says whatever he thinks will get him more votes. i dont understand how you can trust whatever comes out of his mouth

The amazing thing is that his supporters acknowledge this. They're found some way to make it an admirable trait, while still blasting Hillary for flip flopping and pandering.
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Did you see the actual transcript? Trump said keep the federal minimum wage about where it is, or modestly increase it, and let the states raise theirs further if they want. Those aren't three different positions.


He said let the states determine it, which means that no Federal minimum wage at all would be possible.  He's also said the current Federal minimum wage is too low.  He's also said he would raise the Federal minimum wage but, no, wait, let the states decide.

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He never said that. Letting states raise their minimum wages higher than the federal minimum isn't "abolishing" it.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post


Did you see the actual transcript? Trump said keep the federal minimum wage about where it is, or modestly increase it, and let the states raise theirs further if they want. Those aren't three different positions.


When you're right, you're right.  The transcript in the article I read must have been fake.  I read the transcript on O'Reilly's website, and I can't see where he claimed to end the minimum wage.

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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

He never said that. Letting states raise their minimum wages higher than the federal minimum isn't "abolishing" it.
Sigh. He said - as sort of a thought-fragment - there doesn't have to be a minimum wage. Let the states set them. Not clear if states can raise above the federal (which is already possible) or if states entirety address it (no federal minimum). He has no real plan and threw some shit at the wall.
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Sigh. He said - as sort of a thought-fragment - there doesn't have to be a minimum wage. Let the states set them. Not clear if states can raise above the federal (which is already possible) or if states entirety address it (no federal minimum). He has no real plan and threw some shit at the wall.



No one will accuse me of being a Trump supporter, but here's what he actually said:

 

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O'REILLY: What about the minimum wage? You got hammered on that by Bernie Sanders last night. What's your vision for federal minimum wage? How much?

TRUMP: Well, he lied last night. I mean, it was a total lie, and everybody said it, in fact, some of the folks on your network said, wow, that was really a lie, he said that I want to do go less than minimum wage. This is the new one. Because I'm the Republican that said in some cases we have to go more than minimum wage.

O'REILLY: But give me a number. Give me a number.

TRUMP: No. Let me give you a concept because I think it's a good concept. You go with the states. Let the states make the determination. Because if you take New York, it's very expensive to live in New York. And they need more than, you know, even, eight, nine dollars, so you go with the states.

O'REILLY: But the states have the authority now to do that.

TRUMP: They do. They do.

O'REILLY: There has to be a federal minimum wage.

TRUMP: They do. They do.

O'REILLY: What would you set the federal minimum wage at?

TRUMP: There doesn't have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat. You need to help people. And I know it's not very Republican to say.

O'REILLY: Well, give me 10 bucks?

TRUMP: I would say 10. I would say 10.

O'REILLY: All right.

TRUMP: But, with the understanding that somebody like me is going to bring back jobs, I don't want people to be in that $10 category for very long. But, the thing is, Bill, let the states make the deal.

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Yes, can you spot the contradictions? It's like Where's Waldo where Waldo is a half-baked semi-coherent response and there are more than one of him.
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I feel like if O'Reilly said 12 he would've said 12. Doesn't really give me confidence that he knows what he's talking about or really if there is even anything going on in his head. He just has this vague notion that there should be a minimum wage, it should or shouldn't be higher, the Feds should maybe set a higher one, but let the states decide. I don't think he has any clue on how to actually implement this or how he would even get a bill past the house or senate


if you gave trump a policy briefing would he be even able to understand it? if there was evidence his views are wrong would he be able to admit he's wrong and switch? cuz i feel like he would only accept "facts" that endorse whatever new conspiracy he thinks of next
Edited by indesertum - 7/27/16 at 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

I feel like if O'Reilly said 12 he would've said 12. Doesn't really give me confidence that he knows what he's talking about or really if there is even anything going on in his head. He just has this vague notion that there should be a minimum wage, it should or shouldn't be higher, the Feds should maybe set a higher one, but let the states decide. I don't think he has any clue on how to actually implement this or how he would even get a bill past the house or senate


if you gave trump a policy briefing would he be even able to understand it? if there was evidence his views are wrong would he be able to admit he's wrong and switch? cuz i feel like he would only accept "facts" that endorse whatever new conspiracy he thinks of next

Yes, perhaps so. I don't care really. Just disappointed that the article I read when I made my original comment was fake. With all the shit trump says it isn't needed.

A small part of my libertarianism thinks a trump might not be so bad if your hypothesis is true. Government grinding to a halt is better than bipartisan patriot acts and the like.
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