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Very few blacks or Hispanics were out protesting in the street about Romney. HRC doesn't inspire the same loyalty with the black community as Obama, but Trump has really stirred people up.
post #4247 of 8748
Notice Asians aren't making much noise, and staying under the radar. Sneaky fucks.
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You're smoking. His anti immigrant rhetoric is enough to turn away most of those 1st or 2nd gen immigrants who might sympathize with his "policies".

Most immigrants are anti-immigration and certainly anti illegal immigration. So I don't see problem for him here. The Blacks are different matter, but since turn out is going to be pathetic this year they would not matter anyway.
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You're smoking. His anti immigrant rhetoric is enough to turn away most of those 1st or 2nd gen immigrants who might sympathize with his "policies".

Can you specifically outline what is considered "anti-immigration" rhetoric, and why those specific polices are bad for the country?
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Can you specifically outline what is considered "anti-immigration" rhetoric, and why those specific polices are bad for the country?
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Originally Posted by TheDonald 
When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

The Hispanic community isn't particularly likely to forget about that.


As far as policy specifics, Trump doesn't produce those. But he's still in favor of mass deportation, although he hasn't said how he'd accomplish that. I can't imagine anyone in the immigrant community would support mass deportation, since it would almost invariably turn into a witchhunt for brown people. You're not going to be able to remove 12 million people without significantly infringing on the civil liberties of people who are here legally, it's just not possible. And Trump hasn't given any indication that he's going to stand on principle for civil liberties.
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If Auma Obama, Mark Obama Ndesandjo or Maya Soetoro-Ng had done so it would have been news worthy. Malik appears to be the dumb brother who yearns for attention.

That being said, blacks from the Anglophone Caribbean, Latin America and Africa are much more conservative than their AA brothers. If not for the blatant racist rhetoric of establishment as well as the base, those demographics would have been easily wrapped up by the GOP.

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As to the non AA black people I agree with what you say generally.

Many of them will vote for Trump, but few of them will be shouting it out.

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Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltskin View Post


You're smoking. His anti immigrant rhetoric is enough to turn away most of those 1st or 2nd gen immigrants who might sympathize with his "policies".


Hillary will get a greater share of the Hispanic vote which will be enough to push her over the top

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Can you specifically outline what is considered "anti-immigration" rhetoric, and why those specific polices are bad for the country?

Creating strawman arguments is just second nature for you isn't it.
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The Hispanic community isn't particularly likely to forget about that.


As far as policy specifics, Trump doesn't produce those. But he's still in favor of mass deportation, although he hasn't said how he'd accomplish that. I can't imagine anyone in the immigrant community would support mass deportation, since it would almost invariably turn into a witchhunt for brown people. You're not going to be able to remove 12 million people without significantly infringing on the civil liberties of people who are here legally, it's just not possible. And Trump hasn't given any indication that he's going to stand on principle for civil liberties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Of course it is logistically possible, but hardly politically feasible.

Operation Wetback was not televised. Trump's plan, whatever it is, will be streamed live on Facebook from 100,000 phones.
post #4254 of 8748
The moment newly increased monetary penalties for hiring illegals start to outweigh the illegal profits gained by the business the deportation will happen automatically as 11 million will find themselves out of work in US. The crime will temporarily go up , but police unions will be elated as more police will be hired and more taxes temporarily diverted to law enforcement.
Problem solved.Just enforce the law stop calling the N.E. of the country some sort of proverbial "Safe Heaven".
post #4255 of 8748
Trump wants to build a wall. The same wall that keeps them out keeps us in. No thanks.
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In 1930 they deported a million Mexican Americans in Los Angeles. That was way before Eisenhower.
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The Hispanic community isn't particularly likely to forget about that.

That wasn't the entire quote. You left out the part where he mentioned some of them are good people. That's kind of important when evaluating what he said. Can one acknowledge that every single Mexican might not be a net positive for our country without being "anti-immigrant"? I have to assume the answer to that is no, because I'm hearing the same story when people talk about limiting immigration from places like Afghanistan. In today's climate one can only assume that favoring the slightest scrutiny applied to immigration means you're "anti-immigrant."
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I can't imagine anyone in the immigrant community would support mass deportation,

You're sort of making Trump's argument for him. If legal immigrants aren't in favor of enforcing immigration laws, then legal immigration should also be looked at to see if our current pace is one that's sustainable and to the benefit of people already here.

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

You're not going to be able to remove 12 million people without significantly infringing on the civil liberties of people who are here legally, it's just not possible. And Trump hasn't given any indication that he's going to stand on principle for civil liberties.

I doubt it's 12 million people. If amnesty ever happened we'd magically find out that, oops, it's really double that. But anyway, I agree with this and Trump doesn't intend to deport that many people, but we should deport them as they're caught and make an effort to enforce current laws.
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Originally Posted by TheDonald
When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

But some of them are ok.


Really does make the whole statement better... rolleyes.gif
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That wasn't the entire quote.

LOL @ the thought the media is going to not selectively quote something that juicy.
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It's like when people say 'no offense' and then say some crazy weird shit, and expect you not to be offended because it was prefaced with 'no offense'
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