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How do you explain the primaries then? Did he just get lucky?


People still can't figure out why Trump won. He wasn't even a "real conservative."

He won because he was the only candidate that ran on a nationalist platform. He recognized that voters cared a lot more about immigration than they cared about conservative purity.
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Trump won because he staked out one position: nationalism and just went all out.  Everything else was peripheral during the primary.
 

In other news, George Will left the Republican Party over this. 

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He was a RINO anyways. rolleyes.gif
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Nationalism won Trump the nomination and allowed Bernie to at least put up a fight.
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Nationalism? I don't think you guys know what it means.
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nationalism; noun

1. spirit or aspirations common to the whole of a nation.
2. devotion and loyalty to one's own country; patriotism.
3. excessive patriotism; chauvinism.
4. the desire for national advancement or political independence.
5. the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one's own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations.
 

 

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chauvinism; noun
1. zealous and aggressive patriotism or blind enthusiasm for military glory.
post #3877 of 8748
Chauvinism? Only French know how to do that.

Trump is isolationists not a warmonger like Hillary or Obama. Patriotism is antithetic to the hate Trump constituency has for US government and parties establishment.

One can make a Snowden argument for patriotism, but that is too nuanced for most Trump supporters, actually for most Americans regardless of political affiliation.

"Americans or America First" slogans have nothing to do with patriotism or nationalism and everything to do with basic survival of millions of unemployed people who were betrayed (repeatedly) by their own government.

Nationalism and Fear are liberal narratives thrown around to diminish and distort the real reasons for millions of people supporting Trump simply because he is a disruptor of status quo.

Americans are grasping at straws with Trump. Next act will be violence.


P. S. From stand point of US oligarchy there is no incentive for regime change. In communist China there was a huge monetary incentive for ruling party oligarchy to cease its hold on economic process same as in USSR. In China or USSR everyone who was anyone in the government or close to it benefited enormously from voluntary regime change (Perestroyka, Chinese economic liberalism). In US, the only condition that would force oligarchy to cede control is fear for their lives.
post #3878 of 8748
In today's installment, our dimwit protagonist attempts the crudest sort of Marxist analysis--not just reducing everything to economic realities in the last instance, but actually denying patent facts (i.e., a jingoistic slogan isn't patriotic! Patriotism can't be patriotism if there's an opposition to the government!) to make everything a claim about economic realities. Nice try, dimwit protagonist! This is better than your usual efforts! Pretty soon you might start thinking intelligently about how base and superstructure are in a complex relationship with one another (even if the base maintains its privilege in explaining why stuff happens).

Huge step up from posting bird photos and "fag" jokes. C+, with room for improvement.
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So George Will has staked out an anti Trump position and is leaving the GOP to support Hillary.

I cant fault anyone for not getting behind Trump, but dont pretend this buys you any credibility after going along with the disaster that was GW Bush's presidency, and further signal you're OK with Obama's via a Hillary votes.

Trillion dollar foreign wars that unleashed 100k+ deaths, huge expansion of unaccountable executive bureaucracies, largest increase in the liability side of the US balance sheet since WW2... and the hill youve chosen to make your stand on is mean comments about a latino judge? Pat yourself on the back George Will.
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Trillion dollar foreign wars that unleashed 100k+ deaths, huge expansion of unaccountable executive bureaucracies, largest increase in the liability side of the US balance sheet since WW2.

 

You've perfectly summarized a Hillary presidency before it's even happened.

 

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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

In today's installment, our dimwit protagonist attempts the crudest sort of Marxist analysis--not just reducing everything to economic realities in the last instance, but actually denying patent facts (i.e., a jingoistic slogan isn't patriotic! Patriotism can't be patriotism if there's an opposition to the government!) to make everything a claim about economic realities. Nice try, dimwit protagonist! This is better than your usual efforts! Pretty soon you might start thinking intelligently about how base and superstructure are in a complex relationship with one another (even if the base maintains its privilege in explaining why stuff happens).

Huge step up from posting bird photos and "fag" jokes. C+, with room for improvement.

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So George Will has staked out an anti Trump position and is leaving the GOP to support Hillary.

I cant fault anyone for not getting behind Trump, but dont pretend this buys you any credibility after going along with the disaster that was GW Bush's presidency, and further signal you're OK with Obama's via a Hillary votes.

Trillion dollar foreign wars that unleashed 100k+ deaths, huge expansion of unaccountable executive bureaucracies, largest increase in the liability side of the US balance sheet since WW2... and the hill youve chosen to make your stand on is mean comments about a latino judge? Pat yourself on the back George Will.

Has he really endorsed Hillary? I haven't seen it if he has.
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The Trump phenomenon shares many similarities with the Brexit referendum, and the recent elections in Austria, Poland, and Hungary. Personally, I think that this current election in the U.S. has more in common with these European elections than it does with any U.S. election in the last 3 decades.

That is what conservative pundits can't seem to figure out. They are still trying to view Trump through the lens of Bush vs. Gore, and the entire election is not making sense to them. The traditional U.S. conservative vs liberal dichotomy doesn't really describe what's going on right now in the U.S. (or outside the U.S.)
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post

So George Will has staked out an anti Trump position and is leaving the GOP to support Hillary.

I cant fault anyone for not getting behind Trump, but dont pretend this buys you any credibility after going along with the disaster that was GW Bush's presidency, and further signal you're OK with Obama's via a Hillary votes.

Trillion dollar foreign wars that unleashed 100k+ deaths, huge expansion of unaccountable executive bureaucracies, largest increase in the liability side of the US balance sheet since WW2... and the hill youve chosen to make your stand on is mean comments about a latino judge? Pat yourself on the back George Will.

Has he really endorsed Hillary? I haven't seen it if he has.
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 “You know he looks smart because he wears those little glasses,” Trump said at a November rally. “If you take those glasses away from him, he’s a dummy.”
post #3885 of 8748
You know Trump only looks like a buffoon because of the Orange Duck on his head.

Take away the Duck L'Orange and Trump is a serious, caring, intellectual statesman.
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