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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Here is from the same article: FBI has no informants they fishing in social media. Why post long articles without reading them first?

The term "social network" applies in meatspace. They're not just trolling Facebook.

How are those quotes supposed to be making the point you think you're making? The regional FBI director is saying that 1/4 of their investigations started as a result of tips from the Muslim community. Those quotes don't reject that statement at all.
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I admit that there are might be a few cases nation wide where self-reported (not extracted) intelligence from Muslim led to prevention of attack.
Or, you know, 25% of cases. "A few."

shah and I posted a whole list of examples of where the Muslim community is actively working with law enforcement. Shit isn't just made up, yo.
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However I made no illusions about Muslim community cooperation with FBI or law enforcement as there are very strong deterrents to it.
First deterrent is their religious community, its tribal culture and its inevitable scorn.
Second deterrent is Patriot Act, by which even minor infraction will result in 10-20 years in jail, in best case and disappearance without access to due process in worst case.

So to sum it up: Religious Muslim has a good degree of sympathy to all those Al Qaeda ISIS freedom fighters and large disenstive of being community pariah if informs.
Secular middle easterner has no incentive to inform out of fear of being dragged into FBI corrupt web of lies and entrapments.
And you're making these conclusions from your vast understanding of the American Muslim community, I'm sure.


American Muslims don't want their community to be the one where a suicide bomber or mass shooter came from. The few examples we have are lone wolves. They weren't things the community would have known about. This isn't Molenbeek, where a significant chunk of the population is aiding and abetting a cell of terrorists.
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I worked for a muslim company. It was awful. They are also pissed off all day long during ramadan. It's like you have a nation of people who collectively get PMS at the same time. The woman are insanely uppity and aggressive.
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I am skeptical of any % or other claims coming out of lying sacks of shit working for FBI. They are government bureaucrats who pad their resumes by lying and entrapping innocent stupid people, thus they are not to be trusted.
My knowledge of different cultures and mindsets is coming from my personal experience living among muslims in the West and East and being friends with them and their families. I don't claim to be an expert but I do have my own perspective on what motivates muslim people and what their culture dictates to them. I believe, I am being realistic when I say I do not believe in claims of wide-spread cooperation between religious muslim communities and law enforcement.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Young budapest, it would seem I am not alone in my assessment of you. At some point one has to ponder whether it is indeed one's self and not the rest of the world.


Maybe you'll get to 50,000 enlightening posts by next Tuesday.

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You're right - you stand on an island, fighting the good fight. A beacon of hope for others 


Sigh.  You said that he and I agree and I don't know where you got that from, that's all.  Appreciate the congratulations on being right though.

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I am skeptical of any % or other claims coming out of lying sacks of shit working for FBI. They are government bureaucrats who pad their resumes by lying and entrapping innocent stupid people, thus they are not to be trusted.

How can you quote them as use in argument earlier, and then when you turn out to be wrong--> they canot be trusted.

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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post

 

Anyway, you're consistently the most active poster on SF, seem to have various threads dedicated to your "musings", and I see numerous blanket assertions from you devoid of reasoning and just blasting away with your own worldviews as if they were the only ones and impervious to criticism.  I don't think you're dumb but you have your share of sloppy posts (somewhere in the 40,000+) that are definitely on the lazy end of the spectrum.

 

This isn't entirely accurate. He had his post count reset a number of years ago when he was up around 30,000. It would be more accurate to say roughly 70,000 posts.

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Anyone else get a good chuckle out of imagining Reggs working for a Muslim.

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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

How can you quote them as use in argument earlier, and then when you turn out to be wrong--> they canot be trusted.
I trust the government to admit their failure while I am skeptical when they heap praise on themselves. I suggest you follow the same formula.
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post


Maybe you'll get to 50,000 enlightening posts by next Tuesday.

Budapest style deflection again. Learn some new tricks before you become an old dog.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Budapest style deflection again. Learn some new tricks before you become an old dog.


For me to deflect a point, you need to make a point.  Your last email didn't make one.  Here you finally make one and are a highly credible authority to boot.

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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post
 


For me to deflect a point, you need to make a point.  Your last email didn't make one.  Here you finally make one and are a highly credible authority to boot.



He's emailing you now?

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He's emailing you now?

Don't be jealous; it's all about the hate fuck.
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Even more reasons not to bring in Taliban symphatizers like his father and such.

 
Is this true? I remember him saying he didn't like gays but dont remmeber the taliban angle

according to multiple news outlets praised taliban a few times on his youtube channel, overall the more i read about this guy the more of an odd ball he seems, no wonder his son was fucked up

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/13/seddique_mir_mateen_omar_mateen_s_father_has_very_odd_political_views.html
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Originally Posted by wojt View Post

according to multiple news outlets praised taliban a few times on his youtube channel, overall the more i read about this guy the more of an odd ball he seems, no wonder his son was fucked up

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/13/seddique_mir_mateen_omar_mateen_s_father_has_very_odd_political_views.html

He has a sweet fucking mustache though.
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