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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


WAFM.

My point is that out group discrimination is not only race based (which is what some dumb ass just tried to posit like the fuckwit he is.)


So your point is that it isn't just racism but bigotry?  Again, another no shit point that has no relevance to anything.

post #3722 of 8748
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post


So your point is that it isn't just racism but bigotry?  Again, another no shit point that has no relevance to anything.

Then why did you make a post to base it only on racism? Oh yeah, 'cause you're a race baiting fuckwit. You mock the right wing mouthbreathers but you're the equivalent from the left.
post #3723 of 8748
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

i've posted links to various analyses of this issue--which i'm sure nobody has read--discussing how some imagined desire of belonging really drives the disenfranchised (or those perceiving themselves as alienated, foreigners here and back in their ancestral homes) to attach themselves to a "greater" ideological cause (i.e. ISIS now, with the improved marketing compared to audio tapes and grainy vhs releases of al Qaeda). almost always you'll find them lacking in religious training, easily persuaded by charismatic recruiters (hence falling for the useless fbi sting/entrapment operations), and completely disarrayed upon arrival to their destinations like the kid that just tried running away, caught by the kurds and returned to the US for sentencing. this in no way shifts the blame or excuses their behavior, it's just a first step toward understanding why certain types are driven to act as they do.

I've read some good stuff describing ISIS as a gang. They pull out socially isolated guy who want to feel like badasses and give them an ideology and a way to express their helplessness.


You read ISIS (and AQ) strategy, and they want us to institute policies that divide and isolate Muslims. They know it'll create more of these lone wolves. Not that we should automatically let them make our strategic decisions for us, but I think they're right.
post #3724 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Then why did you make a post to base it only on racism? Oh yeah, 'cause you're a race baiting fuckwit. You mock the right wing mouthbreathers but you're the equivalent from the left.


Why did I make a post about racism?  Because his fucking comment was fucking racist.  Reading comprehension....  Read-ing com-pre-hen-sion....

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Racist is dogwhistle for Honeycomb cereal.



Moslems will never embrace the Dhimmi. And the Euro-dhimmi will never embrace their imported serfs.

Ask the American Indian whether diversity made them stronger.
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post


Why did I make a post about racism?  Because his fucking comment was fucking racist.  Reading comprehension....  Read-ing com-pre-hen-sion....

Actually, you stinking piece of smega, his post was the opposite of racist.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Actually, most problems with immigrants come from the first generation born in America.  It isn't specific to Muslims.  The second generation doesn't know how shitty wherever their parents were which led them to the US.  They just see how their parents are treated and how their group is portrayed and they think it is unfair or whatever.

This could cover anything from Armenians to Canadians. And as a Canuck, we do often get portrayed in a stereotyped way.
post #3727 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Actually, you stinking piece of smega, his post was the opposite of racist.
This could cover anything from Armenians to Canadians. And as a Canuck, we do often get portrayed in a stereotyped way.



We force Canadians to drop the English "u".
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post


So Bush actually invades two countries on his own initiative, but Hillary is the neocon warhawk on steroids. K.

 

Bush bombed and/or invaded four countries.  Obama's count is seven.

 

"Washington insiders are likening (Obama) to 'George W Bush on steroids'"

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/02/drone-wars-secrecy-barack-obama

 

FBI criminal investigation emails: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/10/fbi_criminal_investigation_emails_clinton_approved_cia_drone_assassinations_with_her_cellphone_report_says/

post #3729 of 8748
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post

^ So I got to the part about none of them finding homosexuality acceptable.  There is some cosmic-level cognitive dissonance going on with people (Right-wingers in the US especially) finding it acceptable to discriminate against all Muslims because the Muslims don't tolerate homosexuality.


What I interesting is that the politically impure here in America are haters and bigots, but those who throw gays off of buildings are A-OK with you.

Social Justice Warriors and Islamic terrorists are kindred spirits.
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

Bush bombed and/or invaded four countries.  Obama's count is seven.

"Washington insiders are likening (Obama) to 'George W Bush on steroids'"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/02/drone-wars-secrecy-barack-obama

FBI criminal investigation emails: Clinton approved CIA drone assassinations



http://www.salon.com/2016/06/10/fbi_criminal_investigation_emails_clinton_approved_cia_drone_assassinations_with_her_cellphone_report_says/


Three words:

Peace Prize.
post #3731 of 8748
Bit of a distinction between an invasion and a drone bombing, isn't there?


Drone bombing isn't trivial, but let's not so casually equate them. Bush's actions with invading Iraq and fucking up the invasion of Afghanistan destabilized a huge swath of the world, cost trillions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives. That's the "neocon on steroids."
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post


What I interesting is that the politically impure here in America are haters and bigots, but those who throw gays off of buildings are A-OK with you.

Social Justice Warriors and Islamic terrorists are kindred spirits.


Large slice of Right-wing evangelistic America:  How dare you kill our godless faggots who are ruining America.

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Bit of a distinction between an invasion and a drone bombing, isn't there?


Drone bombing isn't trivial, but let's not so casually equate them. Bush's actions with invading Iraq and fucking up the invasion of Afghanistan destabilized a huge swath of the world, cost trillions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of lives. That's the "neocon on steroids."


Bush's error was believing that freedom and democracy translate worldwide. He grossly underestimated Islam and irreconcilable cultural differences.
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We shouldn't let a few hundred million bad apples spoil the bunch.
post #3735 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


Actually, you stinking piece of smega, his post was the opposite of racist.
This could cover anything from Armenians to Canadians. And as a Canuck, we do often get portrayed in a stereotyped way.


First of all, from the bottom of my heart, I cry for you as a poor stereotyped, oppressed Canuck.

 

Second, I'm sure he isn't talking about the problems of all immigrants, Armenians and Chinese and Somalian and Australians and the rest.  But even if he is, I'm sorry, THAT wouldn't be racist or bigoted because it's equal opportunity?  What's funny about the post is that he tells us what the problems are with immigrants, which is apparently that they "just see how their parents are treated and how their group is portrayed and they think it is unfair or whatever".

 

So he make a huge sweeping generalization about immigrants (possibly excluding, possibly including Somalis, Canucks, and Irishmen) and what their problem is and then posits it could be caused by them seeing their parents get treated badly (i.e., because they are immigrants).

 

You catch none of that and piss your pants because I haven't addressed historical bigotry against Catholics or something.


EOT was right, getting a beer and signing off.

 

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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Actually, most problems with immigrants come from the first generation born in America.  It isn't specific to Muslims.  The second generation doesn't know how shitty wherever their parents were which led them to the US.  They just see how their parents are treated and how their group is portrayed and they think it is unfair or whatever.
 
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