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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post

Serious question time again:

Why would a person of a certain demographic want to patronize, and therefore enhance the profits of, a business operated by a person or persons who holds negative views of said demographic?  Don't situations like that generally call for boycotts rather than patronage?  That's what happened with the Woolworth's lunch counter and countless other instances.

The point isn't that you need to buy from that particular store, it's that you shouldn't have to face discrimination while engaging in routine commercial activities.
post #3392 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So if it trickles up to the federal government how could the opposite possibly trickle down from the federal government?

Protecting minorities from the abuses of majority rule was built into our system from the beginning. The tyranny of the majority and all. It doesn't work perfectly, but the mechanism is there.
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And no one has addressed the objectively verifiable negative impact laws have had on minorities such as Asian college applicants in CA.
Has that ever been litigated?

Clearly affirmative actions programs, designed to compensate previously discriminated against groups, have to come at the expense of somebody else. It's a thorny issue, although I think a different one from discrimination protection itself.
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The answer, of course, is neither private business nor all level of governments are perfect, and to think one is necessarily superior to the other is bogus and displays unwarranted elevation of one over the other.

I don't think anyone is saying government is perfect. We have restrictions on application of government authority for a reason, after all.
post #3393 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I don't think anyone is saying government is perfect. We have restrictions on application of government authority for a reason, after all.

It's not that people are saying government is perfect but rather they point to private business at not being perfect and say therefore government must fix it. If we all admit government isn't perfect either where is the logic there? The answer is both private and public improve things in a push me/pull you type fashion. I see some folks here giving government the supremacy and laughing at folks that think free markets will fix things. There clearly have been cases where the free market was ahead of government. There have been cases where local law was ahead of federal law and vice versa.

Basically, no one is on the "right side of history" all the time if you ask me, so folks need to stop placing one sector above the other in this argument.
post #3394 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

The point isn't that you need to buy from that particular store, it's that you shouldn't have to face discrimination while engaging in routine commercial activities.

"Routine commercial activities" are those that are entered into voluntarily without coercion.

Members of a women-only gym are discriminating.
People who go to gay bars are discriminating.
People who prioritize black-owned businesses are discriminating.

Why should discrimination be selectively enforced against people who own businesses?
post #3395 of 8748
Wow, that is some (white) mansplaining there.
post #3396 of 8748
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Originally Posted by NickCarraway View Post


"Routine commercial activities" are those that are entered into voluntarily without coercion.

Members of a women-only gym are discriminating.
People who go to gay bars are discriminating.
People who prioritize black-owned businesses are discriminating.

Why should discrimination be selectively enforced against people who own businesses?


Is all discrimination the same?  

post #3397 of 8748
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Originally Posted by budapest12 View Post


Is all discrimination the same?  

And if it isn't what metrics does one use to determine "good" vs. "bad" discrimination?
post #3398 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


And if it isn't what metrics does one use to determine "good" vs. "bad" discrimination?


And who is the "one" making the determination?  Ahh, democracy.

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Now you guys are getting somewhere.

The diversity/discrimination industry in 2016 is nothing more than a racket to distribute spoils (either monetary or symbolic culture war victories) to the preferred ethnicities.

White men are getting a little sick of this, with the left having abandoned any of their former pretext and gratitude, and are sublimating their frustrations into Trump support. Why Asians have not followed suit is a bit of a mystery to me.
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Token Asian chiming in: shut the fuck up with your white man bellyaching
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Token Asian chiming in: shut the fuck up with your white man bellyaching

That's your answer to everything.
post #3402 of 8748
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

That's your answer to everything.

Nah, it's just my answer when Asians get conscripted into white bellyaching bullshit
post #3403 of 8748
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Nah, it's just my answer when Asians get conscripted into white bellyaching bullshit

Check your minority privilege.

Also, I think I was the only one to mention ya'll, and I'm not bellyaching. What do I have to bellyache about? I'm a fucking 1%'er and living the dream.
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What the fuck are you talking about? I was responding to this:
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Originally Posted by Pennglock View Post

Now you guys are getting somewhere.

The diversity/discrimination industry in 2016 is nothing more than a racket to distribute spoils (either monetary or symbolic culture war victories) to the preferred ethnicities.

White men are getting a little sick of this, with the left having abandoned any of their former pretext and gratitude, and are sublimating their frustrations into Trump support. Why Asians have not followed suit is a bit of a mystery to me.
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You think I read what everyone posts? satisfied.gif

I'm also pretty sure Penn would be African American.
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