Originally Posted by brokencycle
When he was on the debate stage, he said some anti-interventionalist things, which compared to Ted Cruz and Marco Rubios plans to bomb the sand until it glows, seems pretty tame.
We have had discussions before about Trump's success, and one thing that continues to stick with me is this idea that people just attach whatever views they have on to him. The more I talk to some Trump supporters I know, they talk about how he's going to do x, y, and z. Except there is video and recordings of him changing his tune even day to day.
Is he for private health insurance? Or is Canadian health care great? Is he for taking all the ME oil, or is he going to stay out of their affairs?
No one knows.
That's the thing, right? He's a chimera. You could assign any belief system to him and pull statements that might support it. And the people who buy that are often the same people who loath Hillary for being a shifting in the wind politician. They even acknowledge that Trump does it, but give him points for it somehow.
Originally Posted by Numbernine
Don't need to be a psychiatrist to see why Medwed is attracted to Trump
I've noticed something this election cycle. I voted for Bush twice and Obama twice, but each time, I could find arguments supporting the other guy that I respected, from people I respected. You see somebody smart touting their support for Romney or whoever and think "Huh, maybe they have a point." I haven't seen that at all with Trump.
It's interesting that none of the usual conservatives in this forum are out supporting Trump. Half the population of CE left back in 2011 because of how obnoxious four or five posters were about Romney and against Obama, but they're dead quiet about Trump.
Originally Posted by Numbernine
Don't you think he is just saying what he thinks is the best thing to say in order to present himself in the best possible light at that moment. I don't think he really cares about anything outside of Donald Trump and whats in it for Donald Trump. I"m just amazed that his supporters don't observe that. Unless they share that philosophy or really are as stupid as they appear
Sure. That's why I think these statements going back before he was Republican-nominee-apparent Trump are useful, because it kind of gives some insight into where his mind and values go when he's not actively pandering to this particular set of people.
I think most of them do know that Trump is pandering, but somehow they love him for it and hate all the politicians. Like, he gets credit for being so adroit to pander and get away with it (despite the fact that they're the ones letting him get away with it).
My in-laws are voting Trump. They'd vote for anyone with an (R), but they're actually enthusiastic about it. Mostly because they hate Hillary (and irrationally too, like going back to culture war bullshit from the 90s), but they actually like his policies. They can somehow simultaneously say that reducing the debt is their biggest priority, but that Trump's tax plan is the best thing ever. They've just chosen to turn off their brains and not do the slightest bit of critical thinking about his claims. It's strange, and they're smart people.