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Is there a way to handle Syria worse than it's now?
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Trump has a certain charisma and his braggadocio can be convincing on an extremely superficial level. But you have to want to believe in him to let it get any further. There's no neutral party case for his stance, it's either True Believer or nothing.

He's still not Hillary, though -- right?
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I'm vaguely curious if that actually means something.
Trump doesn't stand for anything. Well, maybe nativism.

What hillary stands for she with all her scandals with benghazi financial sector leaks, has not made anything clear how is she going to make jobs out of TTP, not a single viable solution on immigration problem beside keeping up the status quo, not a single solution on exausted international arena , neocon intervensionalist policies which are backfiring with a tired europe as in case of germany and many others, and china and other bric countries who feel excluded, not a single solution on how she want to deal with the humanitarian crisis and anything clear and specific for all the world europe ,brics, that all can find a common ground about Syria , the state of total abandonment of Iraq to isis, of afgahnistan, libya , the mutiple scandals involving arming directly and indirectly isis / al nursa from pentagon think tanks and from our aleates the ,oil buying scandals , weapons, financial support, medicating them in hospitals, ect ect, not a single penalty or investigation ,not a single solution on 2008 problem what measures she is putting in place to prevent it, how she plans to close loopholes, what measures she is puting in place for revolving doors, not a single solution how she plan to jump start the economy and create jobs from dispossed jobs legacy, maintain wages from stagnating, how she plans to deal with accomodating more immigrants. What you think people want to hear?

Well since im in america im first american than anything else, same is for all immigrants if they live here they should look in all aspects if they want to be part of america but they dont want no responsability, as long as their other country patriots get in. Thats what a dual citizenship and conflict of interest is.
Edited by satrorianogreco - 5/25/16 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Trump has a list of problems he's identified, but his "solutions" boils down to "trust me, I'll fix it because I'm awesome." He hasn't given anybody a reason to believe he actually has any insight on how to fix most of these things, aside from The Wall.



ISIS, for example. Why the fuck would anyone think Trump could do a better job there (assuming I followed that triple negative horror of a sentence of yours)? The guy has no foreign policy experience at all, and all he's said is that he's going to solve the problem, not actually laid out anything approaching a meaningful solution. The actual policies he's proposed there are largely horrifying (killing families, torture). His "you have to be unpredictable" thing is an awfully good smokescreen for not having to demonstrate any actual knowledge or problem solving ability.



Trump's in a weird place with all the posturing about flexing nuts. He talks about how weak America is right now, and simultaneously about how we can bully the rest of the world into submission.

Ok , you are right. So who are you voting for that would be better alternative in all those aspects you have mentioned?

These debates about policies of Trump vs...are so fucking dumb it hurts. It is like having a choice between a full plate of confirmed dogshit and plate that might, just might contain something eatable and arguing why we will try only from the shit plate as always.
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Bullshit, the alternative is to mind our own fucking business and not involve our dicks in a desert war.

 

What about dessert wars?

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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

He's still not Hillary, though -- right?

I fall on the other side of that coin ("at least she's not Trump"), but it's at least understandable.
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Ok , you are right. So who are you voting for that would be better alternative in all those aspects you have mentioned?

These debates about policies of Trump vs...are so fucking dumb it hurts. It is like having a choice between a full plate of confirmed dogshit and plate that might, just might contain something eatable and arguing why we will try only from the shit plate as always.

I profoundly disagree about the depths of the downsides of a President Trump.

Hillary is four more years of more or less mainstream politics. That's not good, but it's not horrible. Trump is "well it's not dogshit but it has a pretty decent chance of having cyanide in it." I'm not rolling the dice on that.

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What hillary stands for she has not made anything clear how is she going to make jobs out of TTP, not a single viable solution on immigration problem beside keeping up the status quo, not a single solution on exausted international arena , neocon intervensionalist policies which are backfiring with a tired europe as in case of germany and many others, and china and other bric countries who feel excluded, not a single solution on how she want to deal with the humanitarian crisis and what she want to do about Syria , the state of total abandonment of Iraq to isis, of afgahnistan, the mutiple scandals involving arming ditectly and indirectly isis / al nursa from pentagon think tanks and from our aleates, not a single solution on 2008 problem what measures she is putting in place to prevent it, not a single solution how she plan to jump start the economy and create jobs from dispossed jobs legacy, maintain wages from stagnating, how she plans to deal with accomodating more immigrants. What you think people want to hear?

Well since im in america im first american than anything else, same is for all immigrants if they live here they should look in all aspects if they want to be part of america but they dont want no responsability, as long as their other country patriots get in. Thats what a dual citizenship and conflict of interest is.

Good god, punctuation needed.
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Trump's big mouth notwithstanding, there seems to be no reason to expect that he would be a loose cannon. He only sounds that way because he's run a DIY campaign and says stupid things off the cuff, then doubles down on them. Certainly his history in business and politics and the media don't make him out to be particularly extreme or dangerous.

Really, his campaign has just been an exaggeration of every other presidential candidate's -- full of empty promises. In reality he seems to be just the compromising, non-ideologue, even centrist politician the media always says they want.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I fall on the other side of that coin ("at least she's not Trump"), but it's at least understandable.
I profoundly disagree about the depths of the downsides of a President Trump.

Hillary is four more years of more or less mainstream politics. That's not good, but it's not horrible. Trump is "well it's not dogshit but it has a pretty decent chance of having cyanide in it." I'm not rolling the dice on that.
Good god, punctuation needed.


Iphone at work. Mainstream politics, what has she done archiavable, she was a always shadow of her husband and is following same wrecking legacy and piling up scandals. She only has big mouth for popular /mainstream politics but nothing in specific same as obama which did nothing of political promises in fact did the contrary. How she plans to fix the staganting wages, fix the disparity for women wages at all fields, create and maintain jobs for them?
The only Hillary solution is that TTP will fix all, just as NAFTA created jobs for women and fixed wages when B.Clinton put in place.
Edited by satrorianogreco - 5/25/16 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Trump's big mouth notwithstanding, there seems to be no reason to expect that he would be a loose cannon. He only sounds that way because he's run a DIY campaign and says stupid things off the cuff, then doubles down on them. Certainly his history in business and politics and the media don't make him out to be particularly extreme or dangerous.

Really, his campaign has just been an exaggeration of every other presidential candidate's -- full of empty promises. In reality he seems to be just the compromising, non-ideologue, even centrist politician the media always says they want.

I think there's a good point here that the specifics of Trump's "policies" are really not the issue. The problem is Trump himself. I don't think he's Literally Hitler or whatever, but he's not just an exaggerated version of a normal candidate.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I think there's a good point here that the specifics of Trump's "policies" are really not the issue. The problem is Trump himself. I don't think he's Literally Hitler or whatever, but he's not just an exaggerated version of a normal candidate.
Well, his grandparents were from Germany, not Austria, so there's that.
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What about dessert wars?

Desert. As in sand. There are two eses in Dessert because one always wants more than one. Handy tip.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I think there's a good point here that the specifics of Trump's "policies" are really not the issue. The problem is Trump himself. I don't think he's Literally Hitler or whatever, but he's not just an exaggerated version of a normal candidate.

Trump is a scary "problem" for very young people with limited life exp. and some very stupid females. That is why youth is on barricades throwing rocks and stupid women expect danger in everything that is not complacent and familiar.

US need change, desperately.
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US need change

Women always scared

Caveman talk fun and easy on small brain

President need term limit
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US need change we elect most fractious imbecile who appeal to our fear of anyone who not like us america great again

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Originally Posted by Harold falcon View Post


Desert. As in sand. There are two eses in Dessert because one always wants more than one. Handy tip.

 

I'm saying we should have less desert wars and use those resources for more dessert wars.


Have a thumb for your handy tip. 

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