Originally Posted by Piobaire
Agreed on the xenophobia but honestly you'd be surprised how quickly that gets adopted in folks already established here. Of course this nonsense of the wall will turn many against Trump but honestly it's amazing how quickly some families go from FOBby to "keep them out."
Also, Trump has already tossed the Repub big business line with his protectionism. Free trade has been a huge Repub plank in forever but that's gone. Free trade supporters are not Trump's base and he's going to pull a surprising number of union votes I predict. He's not going to win but it's going to be interesting.
What is scary is how similar the two are on issues. One is using a message about how we're getting screwed over, and we need to make American great again, while the other is campaigning on "I'm a woman and its my time"
Originally Posted by Teger
let's assume for a minute that trump fixes his problems with women. really the states we're talking about are pennsylvania, ohio, florida, north carolina, virginia, right? do you see trump carrying those states?
You're moving the goal posts. You said that Republicans need to appeal more to Hispanics. What I'm saying is the demographics don't bear that out. There are a lot of poor white folks in Pennsylvania and Ohio and a lot of old, stogy white folks in Florida that think we need to build a giant ass wall.
I don't think Trump is going to win, but I think it will be close (though I also thought Trump would drop out before the first primary). Trump has a way with linguistic kill shots, and Hillary and Trump will be first and second in terms of unfavorability ratings among all major party presidential candidates in a general election.