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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

Right... because kitchen slaves, and construction dudes digging ditches, and setting up rebar have always made good dough, and had a blast doing it.

Food for thought (or not) , all these folks make decent living wages in other countries, any idea why?
post #2177 of 8748
CoL is cheaper in those other countries.
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Originally Posted by Medwed View Post

Food for thought (or not) , all these folks make decent living wages in other countries, any idea why?

You can make a living here doing those jobs, but that doesn't mean it's going to pay good, or not suck doing those jobs. For the most part you will stay poor in those kind of fields unless you become an Executive Chef, Contractor... etc.
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

You can make a living here doing those jobs, but that doesn't mean it's going to pay good, or not suck doing those jobs. For the most part you will stay poor in those kind of fields unless you become an Executive Chef, Contractor... etc.

And "make a living" is a pretty damn vague term. You can "not die", but it's going to be a bare bones kind of living. That's a bitter pill when the average standard of living is so much higher.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

And "make a living" is a pretty damn vague term. You can "not die", but it's going to be a bare bones kind of living. That's a bitter pill when the average standard of living is so much higher.

Well most of those grunts in those fields have two jobs already. I lived a spartan lifestyle, so I was able to easily get by doing one of those jobs, but if I had a wife, and kids... I would of had to get a second job.

I guess I was looking it through the eyes of a minimalist single guy. Depends on someone's circumstances. Still unless it was a union job, those jobs have always been low paying for the most part.
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Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto View Post

Well most of those grunts in those fields have two jobs already. I lived a spartan lifestyle, so I was able to easily get by doing one of those jobs, but if I had a wife, and kids... I would of had to get a second job.

I guess I was looking it through the eyes of a minimalist single guy. Depends on someone's circumstances. Still unless it was a union job, those jobs have always been low paying for the most part.

In the DC area, it's pretty common to see 6-10 adults living in a townhouse. They're usually sending money home too, but you couldn't really afford to live around here on $10/hour without splitting housing with other people.


I don't know how anybody who works a physical job could do two jobs. I did landscaping for a summer and I could barely move when I got home. That was often 10-12 hour shifts though.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

In the DC area, it's pretty common to see 6-10 adults living in a townhouse. They're usually sending money home too, but you couldn't really afford to live around here on $10/hour without splitting housing with other people.


I don't know how anybody who works a physical job could do two jobs. I did landscaping for a summer and I could barely move when I got home. That was often 10-12 hour shifts though.

Booze, coke, and crystal in many cases in the restaurant industry.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post


Picking strawberries or working landscaping is going to suck no matter how much it pays.

Especially in agriculture, it's not really tenable to pay labor at rates that would actually draw American workers in. You're competing with Third World labor rates, but the work has to be done in the US.
That kind of thing makes you sound like a conspiracy theorist. You know the fed isn't actually printing out money, right? They don't need some elaborate mechanism to shuttle physical money out of the country.



Just ignore him.  Last I checked the "IT and pharma" sectors are alive and well.  I know a lot of people making 6 figures in IT, and not in high cost of living areas like SF - a lot of folks that are the sole breadwinners for a family.

 

Plus, immigrants sending money back home has been a real thing since the country was founded.

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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Plus, immigrants sending money back home has been a real thing since the country was founded.

It's also by far the most effective form of foreign aid, dollar for dollar.

Conditions in Latin America are going to affect us no matter our immigration policy, and giving those countries a boost by having some of their people working in the US isn't a bad alternative. We don't want to see a real refugee crisis to our south, much less actual failed states.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

You know the fed isn't actually printing out money, right?

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1

 

"The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent."

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Is that supposed to have something to do with The Fed supposedly physically printing money for quantitative easing?


I mean, it's a great story of the ineptitude of rebuilding Iraq, but not exactly relevant here.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

It's also by far the most effective form of foreign aid, dollar for dollar.

Conditions in Latin America are going to affect us no matter our immigration policy, and giving those countries a boost by having some of their people working in the US isn't a bad alternative. We don't want to see a real refugee crisis to our south, much less actual failed states.

Yeah, the only reason many of my relatives haven't come the U.S. is, because my brother, and dad have sent them money to go to school. Not gonna lie though... most of those people are pieces of shit. My dad, and brother have been totally been screwed over by them. Some of those people are savages, so I get why some of you don't want them here.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post


It's also by far the most effective form of foreign aid, dollar for dollar.

Conditions in Latin America are going to affect us no matter our immigration policy, and giving those countries a boost by having some of their people working in the US isn't a bad alternative. We don't want to see a real refugee crisis to our south, much less actual failed states.



Agreed - tons of research on this subject.  It is the least likely to just find its way into the hands of dictators and the politically connected.

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Agreed - tons of research on this subject.  It is the least likely to just find its way into the hands of dictators and the politically connected.

Which makes it difficult for, and I'm just throwing out a crazy hypothetical here, a US Secretary of State with a private email server to reward donors to a foundation that primarily benefits her and her husband. It's much easier for the politicians people to do good work and stimulate economies when it's direct, government-to-government aid.
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Surprise! The authorities are not going to prosecute the frivolous battery charge.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/13/politics/corey-lewandowski-donald-trump-charges-dropped/index.html
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