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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

This a bizarre series of arguments all jumbled into one post, but apparently among the least educated, trump holds a majority of support?

http://www.jewishjournal.com/marty_kaplan/article/professor_youre_fired_or_the_education_of_a_trump_voter

So he's this election cycle's Obama?
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Science has gone a lot more Democratic since that poll in 2005. I'd be surprised if it wasn't 75%+. If I've met a Republican chemist or physicist, they're damn quiet about it.

Computer science and engineering was all democratic too.  Republicans were silent.

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I also don't see too many R biologists...
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Eugenics is dominated by Republicans.
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Originally Posted by rnoldh View Post

Eugenics is dominated by Republicans.

Eugenicists tend to be a quiet sort these days.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Eugenicists tend to be a quiet sort these days.

Yeah, no one like Teddy Roosevelt or Winston Churchill around these days.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/matthew-archbold/7-beloved-famous-people-who-were-wildly-pro-eugenics
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Eugenicists tend to be a quiet sort these days.

Hillary was singing the praises of Margaret Sanger just recently.
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Wasn't Woodrow Wilson also very pro eugenics?  Unrelated, he's also the one who started the modern SOTU nonsense we have.

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I think eugenics is like a lot of other historical perspectives. It's horrifying as a modern belief, but you can't really judge figures from the past too hard for holding it and it doesn't discredit all their other work and beliefs. Unless you're lauding a historical figure because they were into eugenics, it doesn't really matter that much.
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Darwinism spawned eugenics, and many scientists and social engineers (Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger, O.W. Holmes) pushed for progress through refinement of the gene pool.

Their eugenics is our global warming.
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump Jan 11
.@RinglingBros is retiring their elephants-- the circus will never be the same.

The genius.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

I think eugenics is like a lot of other historical perspectives. It's horrifying as a modern belief, but you can't really judge figures from the past too hard for holding it and it doesn't discredit all their other work and beliefs. Unless you're lauding a historical figure because they were into eugenics, it doesn't really matter that much.

Wrong side of history, brah. All the names of dead white guys are getting taken off the sides of university buildings.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Wrong side of history, brah. All the names of dead white guys are getting taken off the sides of university buildings.

The move to erase history bothers me. How is anyone supposed to learn from history by removing any reference to something that has any element of controversy?

There was a big outcry about a statue in town that was paid for by the Daughters of the Confederacy, which was basically recognizing the soldiers from Maryland that served in the Confederacy. It's really stupid, because those people did actually serve in the Confederate army. Are we really just going to erase all mentions of the Confederacy in public? It didn't even say "Confederate", it said "thin grey line." You had to really be reaching to be offended, but some town administrator and a couple activists made their outrage bones by getting it moved.
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You raise good points. I also think the current attempts to white wash (excuse the pun) history reflects the black/white, with us/against us, mentality flourishing so much. Historical figures that are honoured were multi-dimensional people, as most of us are, and it's for their positive contributions that they are remembered for. The outrage industry now wants to turn a Jefferson into a single dimension construct, i.e. "a slave owner." The urge for reductive thinking is very strong in the SJW arena, just as strong as in any fundie religious movement (which SJW are so against...unless it's Islam of course).
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