Reference my post under a different topic: I grew up wearing ralph lauren, lacoste, and le tigre. I am 20 now and I still love my old and new lacostes. Collars up is the way it has always been at both my yacht club and country club, seriously. When we were little (in the 80s) our parents used to let our collars "take on a life of their own" at the club, half up half down, etc. I get disgusted with the way people have "ghetto-ized" golf shirts.