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Originally Posted by mcobinad View Post

I agree that the shirt is quite a snug fit but I did get bucket loads of compliment today regarding the coordination and fit especially in an area where attention to detail is of utmost importance. Nevertheless, I do understand the general consensus among members on here regarding the fit of the shirt being slightly disproportionate. I believe that everyone is entitled or not exempted to the occasional foible. smile.gif

Mc lets get some things out of the way. You have a very nice wardrobe and you know how to coordinate your cloths the only thing you seem to ignore (probably on purpose) is the fit of your shirts and jackets. Tight <> Fit

Outside compliments doesn't really fly on a hobbyist site, hell, people wear Ed Hardy and Affliction T-shirts and they get mad love in the real world. This is not the real world, it is a forum dedicated to improving one's personal style and to be honest you are already a sharp dresser all you need to do is re-train yourself on proper fit and get your shirts and jackets over to your seamstress and fix the tightness, bowing etc if they can be rectified.


@Cleav biggrin.gif
post #77612 of 78717
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post


It looks a lot better than before, and it works colour wise, but you're still wearing an orphaned 'city' suit jacket with one of the most traditionally 'country' patterned vests. Put on a tweed sport coat and some corduroy trousers and you have yourself a great outfit. I think DonC has a similar vest if you're looking for inspiration. You're better off selling that jacket, as the pattern is much too subdued for a sport coat. Try to take this into account when shopping next time.

I've never appreciated the city/country dichotomy.  I get its relation to British culture, but as an American it means little to me.  I am more interested in whether the colors and patterns look nice together, which I think they do.  I've seen glen plaid worn in a city context and a country context.  And I think it can look good in both context.  

 

I cannot verify whether this is or is not an orphaned suit jacket.  The jacket is by Brooks Brothers and they currently sells two very similar sport coats in a similar pattern, color and texture.  I thrifted this one about 13 years ago.  I don't see anything wrong with a subdued pattern for a sport coat.  

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80 today.  Pocket square is pink gingham.  First linen on the year for me.  

 

 

 

 

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This dude is muscular and has a massive drop but look at the fit. No excessive pulling and clean lines

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@mcobinad
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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

How can you be comfortable in a shirt like that? I have a couple of shirts that have become a bit too tight in the chest, and I stopped wearing them because it's just too uncomfortable. It'll cause your shoulders to pull forward, because the chest button might pop off otherwise, and that's just bad for your posture. Your shirt isn't just tight in the chest, but it's pulling like crazy everywhere.

Wouldn't you agree that a shirt more suitable for your body type would be a bit more comfortable, and probably look much better? What's the point of wearing expensive clothes if they're not comfortable? You should really look into MTM shirts. Assuming you're in London, go to Jermyn street and have a shirt made up. You could also try online MTM, like Luxire, but it'll take you a bit longer to get that perfect fit, especially if you start with that pink shirt as your basis. I think your outfits altogether would benefit greatly from going MTM or bespoke, as an athletic body type is hard to fit off the rack. I understand it might not be affordable, but in that case you'd be better off by buying much less and just saving up to get MTM.

Compliments don't mean anything, no matter where you are. Even in Mayfair, for example, 90% of the people dress like crap and have no idea what they're doing. Hell, even on Savile Row you see plenty of bad dressers.

Thanks monkeyface for the feedback. Advice taken onboard ! Oh did I mention, I need to call my other half to a board meeting tonight in which the MTM and bespoke accoutrements will be deliberated upon. BTW, I need to see a face to this your status name LOL smile.gif
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Today's outfit even if the weather forecast today is not the best. Enjoy your weekend guys ! smile.gif
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Here is a pic of the shirt button at the end of the day:

 

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Originally Posted by kulata View Post

This dude is muscular and has a massive drop but look at the fit. No excessive pulling and clean lines

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@mcobinad

Thanks my most distinguished honourable monsieur Kulata. Advice taken on board. The suit is one hell of a nice fabric though. smile.gif
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Here is a pic of the shirt button at the end of the day:



I have just been murdered on this forum today for wearing a linen pink shirt with a protruding button. Bespoke, MTM, here I come !
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I've never appreciated the city/country dichotomy.  I get its relation to British culture, but as an American it means little to me.  I am more interested in whether the colors and patterns look nice together, which I think they do.  I've seen glen plaid worn in a city context and a country context.  And I think it can look good in both context.  

 

I cannot verify whether this is or is not an orphaned suit jacket.  The jacket is by Brooks Brothers and they currently sells two very similar sport coats in a similar pattern, color and texture.  I thrifted this one about 13 years ago.  I don't see anything wrong with a subdued pattern for a sport coat.  

 

First off, you're usually a great dresser and I admire your style. 

 

Fair enough, wasn't aware you didn't like the city/country scale, so I'll ignore the city/country dichotomy when looking at your fits from now on. Just to clarify, I wasn't talking about the GP, but about the tattersall vest. A GP tweed jacket can look just as good as a GP worsted suit.

 

The differences between a suit jacket and a sport coat usually come down to three things: fabric/pattern, pockets and buttons.

 

A suit will usually have:

  1. a smoother fabric with a more subdued pattern
  2. buttons that closely match the colour of the fabric
  3. flap pocket

 

A sport coat will usually have:

  1. a more textured fabric with a louder pattern
  2. buttons that contrast with the fabric, such as light brown or gold buttons
  3. patch pockets

 

Your coat has all the factors that identify a suit, but swapping the buttons for brown horn ones might just do the trick! Whether the jacket is made by Brooks Brothers/Kiton/name your grail maker and whether they still make it doesn't matter at all, it's still an orphaned suit jacket even if it never came with matching trousers.

 

In the off chance you don't care about the suit/sportcoat dichotomy either, I'll ignore that alongside the country/city scale when critiquing your fits in the future. 

 

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Thanks monkeyface for the feedback. Advice taken onboard ! Oh did I mention, I need to call my other half to a board meeting tonight in which the MTM and bespoke accoutrements will be deliberated upon. BTW, I need to see a face to this your status name LOL smile.gif
 
Looking forward to seeing the results of the possible accoutrements!

Edited by Monkeyface - 5/10/14 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by Isolation View Post
 

 

Here are some outfits . . .

 

Gah, there's so much here and so much of what you are trying to do is outside of MC aesthetic. Also, this is not really the place to ask for such sweeping advice. Post a fit at a time and work your way up in here or take this to it's own thread.

 

I'm going to try to offer a few tidbits of advice. You are really all over the place and lacking basic foundations IMO. You can't experiment as much as you are trying to with success if you haven't nailed the basics.

 

I am not necessarily against where you are trying to go, but the way in which you are going there betrays the fact that you don't really know what you are doing. Sorry, not trying to be harsh. When I first started sometimes I posted something decent, but I really just got lucky because I didn't know why it was decent.

 

General advice:

If you are going to wear a tie, tighten the knot all the way up, dimple it also.

Avoid shiny things more

 

When you get dressed in the morning decide if you are trying to go MC or dandy.

 

If you chose MC then go back to the basics:

 

Light colored shirts like DC said (you could pretty much start with light blue alone)

Pants should be mid to light gray or khaki

Dark colored jacket (generally a lot of your jackets looks like orphans which is a more detailed discussion entirely)

Tie dark colored either brown, navy, forest green, dark burgundy

Shoes brown

 

There is a lot of subtlety to get lost in what seems like a very restricting set of standard colors. As you pick up on these subtleties you will gain a better idea of how to depart in a meaningful way which will improve your overall dress in other areas as well.

 

If you chose dandy (I'm just guessing here because I don't dress this way . . . yet :p):

 

Odd vest alone needs sleeves rolled up imo. EVERY TIME

Dark shirts need to be less shiny and have like some sort of crazy pattern or something that tells everyone to screw off (black shirts are an exception) in other words burn your dark saturated blue and brown shirts imo. Or put them away for a VERY long time

More tone on tone. Generally your dandy stuff has WAY too many similarish colors going on. Just make them the same if they are going to have such low contrast

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

 

First off, you're usually a great dresser and I admire your style. 

 

Fair enough, wasn't aware you didn't like the city/country scale, so I'll ignore the city/country dichotomy when looking at your fits from now on. Just to clarify, I wasn't talking about the GP, but about the tattersall vest. A GP tweed jacket can look just as good as a GP worsted suit.

 

The differences between a suit jacket and a sport coat usually come down to three things: fabric/pattern, pockets and buttons.

 

A suit will usually have:

  1. a smoother fabric with a more subdued pattern
  2. buttons that closely match the colour of the fabric
  3. flap pocket

 

A sport coat will usually have:

  1. a more textured fabric with a louder pattern
  2. buttons that contrast with the fabric, such as light brown or gold buttons
  3. patch pockets

 

Your coat has all the factors that identify a suit, but swapping the buttons for brown horn ones might just do the trick! Whether the jacket is made by Brooks Brothers/Kiton/name your grail maker and whether they still make it doesn't matter at all, it's still an orphaned suit jacket even if it never came with matching trousers.

 

In the off chance you don't care about the suit/sportcoat dichotomy either, I'll ignore that alongside the country/city scale when critiquing your fits in the future. 

 

Thank you.  I love your style and greatly appreciate your opinion.  I get the difference between a suit and sport coat in terms of texture, color and pattern, but I feel that there are city patterns and textures that can work with country patterns and textures.  I think it's unfortunate to rule out certain combinations because of historical context if they look nice together.  That's not to say what I wore looked nice though.  There was definitely some clashing there.  

 

Idea for Friday Challenge: Mix City and Country w/o Looking like a Bumpkin

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Idea for Friday Challenge: Mix City and Country w/o Looking like a Bumpkin

Nah! You'd win that too easy nod[1].gif
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Originally Posted by lukejackson View Post

Mate, please give it a rest about the shoes. I lile them, other people like them and obviously AAS likes them.

And now mcobinad likes them too! My goodness the bit loafers, what ever shall we do?!?
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@DonCologne, the last outfit you posted is fantastic. One of your better fits (from what I've seen in Friday challenges and a couple other places).
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Originally Posted by An Acute Style View Post

Thank you.  I love your style and greatly appreciate your opinion.  I get the difference between a suit and sport coat in terms of texture, color and pattern, but I feel that there are city patterns and textures that can work with country patterns and textures.  I think it's unfortunate to rule out certain combinations because of historical context if they look nice together.  That's not to say what I wore looked nice though.  There was definitely some clashing there.  

Idea for Friday Challenge: Mix City and Country w/o Looking like a Bumpkin

FWIW, I share some of your skepticism towards the city / country dynamic even though I tend to be a bit traditionally-minded. Voxsartoria gets into some interesting things in his coherent combinations for beginners thread which can be found in various archived iterations. In the sense that "city" tends to be more formal and "country" more casual, there can definitely be some jarring clashes if one isn't careful. There's probably more flexibility on this today than historically, but some things are still going to be a bit jarring (e.g. something like a grey satin tie, white shirt and heavy Harris tweed jacket). I always find it helpful to keep the old rules in mind so that when I break them I know I am doing it deliberately.

Considering the relative formality of certain outfits is one reason I've never worn a tie with my corduroy sport coat. Just seems wrong to me personally (though far from objectively a trainwreck).
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Thank you.  I love your style and greatly appreciate your opinion.  I get the difference between a suit and sport coat in terms of texture, color and pattern, but I feel that there are city patterns and textures that can work with country patterns and textures.  I think it's unfortunate to rule out certain combinations because of historical context if they look nice together.  That's not to say what I wore looked nice though.  There was definitely some clashing there.  

 

Idea for Friday Challenge: Mix City and Country w/o Looking like a Bumpkin

 

As Cleav said, you'd win that one by a long shot, but it would be a lot of fun. I'm trying to think of an outfit, and I'm drawing a blank, so it would certainly put the challenge back in Friday challenge!

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