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What about tassel loafers?

I think of them as so incredibly prep trad.

Alden/Brooks Bros. tassel loafers are the ultimate in prep trad, and they do show up (in black, of course), in the canyons of lower Manhattan, on the feet of financial services professionals (usually of a certain age).
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Interesting.  

 

I grew up in the American northeast, and penny loafers with a crew neck sweater, OCBD shirt, sport coat, and no tie were standard casual wear when I was a teenager. 

 

Perhaps a generational difference?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 

I see people older than my father wearing them with suits at work all the time.


I like the look though frankly I wouldn't consider it formal. I've also seen people interview with them. No one blinks.

 

I did see someone interview wearing spectators once. I thought that was an incredibly stupid idea.

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For what it's worth, Roetzel, in _Gentlemen:  A Timeless Guide to Fashion_, credits the US with the creation of the penny loafer:

"When penny loafers first appeared in America in the 1930s, their effect on adherents of traditional lace-up shoes was genuinely as if the wearer had inadvertently gone out wearing slippers," p. 163.

 

He's a German, of course, so as far as I know he doesn't have a horse in this particular race.

 

Edit:  the book is a translation, and it's possible not a good one.  So the sentence quoted above needs to be take with a grain of salt. 

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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In new england, Penny's are formal. [...]

 

 

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[...]


I like the look though frankly I wouldn't consider it formal. [...]

 

Now you've confused me.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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To be a devil's advocate, that could either mean they were created here or when they were first brought over.


I think penny loafers are a derivative of norwegian/sami mocs. I believe that's what inspired Bass Weejuns.


They were introduced in 1936: http://www.valetmag.com/style/profiles-features/2011/anatomy-of-a-classic-penny-loafer.php

 

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Now you've confused me.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac


I wouldn't consider them formal, i.e. I wouldn't wear a navy suit and tan Penny's to an interview even though I think it's a great look. I'd wear lace ups in that situation.

When I say formal in this sense, I mean where I think I would want to look proper without calling attention to my dress. They're par for the course in NE though. I currently work in boston and they're like a do it all shoe for many people.

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To be a devil's advocate, that could either mean they were created here or when they were first brought over.

[...]

 

The page you linked to credits the American company Bass with their invention, so it's consistent with the former, not the latter.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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The page you linked to credits the American company Bass with their invention, so it's consistent with the former, not the latter.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac


Agreed, should have edited after reading that, but your quote could be read as ambiguous.


Then again an editor friend said last night that he'd never listen to my wording criticisms so you should probably ignore me :p

 

Though I will say that I love the penny loafer and am sad I haven't found one that quite fits me.

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Just to be clear about my intentions, my citation of Roetzel, which deals with the origin of the penny loafer and not it's current geographical distribution, was mostly for Holdfast, whom I now realize I should have quoted.

 

It was offered not to contradict his claim, but merely to expand the context.  "Penny loafers originated in the U.S." and "these days penny loafers are most common in France" (not an exact quote) are wholly independent propositions:  both may be true without entailing a contradiction, and I suspect they both are.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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I've enjoyed this banter and have learned something too!
 

But new england it is!

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This conversation has meandered significantly and I've lost track of it, so to summarise my feelings concisely:

 

- I don't know (or have much interest in) what the actual origin of penny loafers are, but suspect the USA

- tan penny loafers are associated in my mind as being most aesthetically at home when used in the kinds of casual looks you might archetypally see in Italy or the old-fashioned French Riviera. For the rest of this list, for clarity/brevity, I've compressed the above clause to just a colon.

- burgundy penny loafers: American (casual or otherwise)

- calf tassel loafers: American (casual or otherwise)

- suede tassel loafers (esp. recently and in a tobacco shade): non-specific continental EU city

- black penny loafers: everywhere & anywhere. Usually on a nasty last.

- black moccasins: see black penny loafers, and cube that.

- boat shoes: upper-middle class university students and the middle-of-the-road professionals they grow up into. Much more rarely: people who actually might be found on a boat.

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I don't know where pizza originated, but I associate it with Jupiter.
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Orange you glad it's Friday.  Second green tie challenge attempt.   

 

 

 

 

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Pant seat looks like it could use alterations.

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How in the world did you reach that conclusion from those pictures?
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How in the world did you reach that conclusion from those pictures?

 

Look at the lines at the crotch. Possible he just needs to pull them down a little bit if he just stood up, but they look like they're pulling. The first picture looks relatively okay though, so it might just be the image.

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