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I think the difficulty thing gets more props on here.


IRL no one cares how difficult an item is to pair. They see you and go good or not.

Purpose of dress matters. You want to look good for yourself, but how you're perceived matters as well when you're out with friends or at work, right? So if you're sartorially amazing, but look completely inappropriate for your surroundings and company then you'll get potentially unwanted attention. If that's what you were going for, then sure.


For instance, I could wear a suit to work if I wanted, but it's out of place since my bosses often don't. I can dress well without donning a suit. I'd prefer to keep that going rather than draw unwanted attention form other staff and such.

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+ one on 'none' . multiple patterns don't look any better per se, they're just easier to get wrong & take more experience and understanding to get rite.  That's why they're associated with more advanced dressing, but all-solids roks can rok no less. 

 

IMO there's no such thing as a 'beginner's fit'- it's really hard to do navy blazer/brown tie/grey pants well. 

 

 

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If something looks good, it looks good. That's the only criterion of any importance. Doesn't matter how you got there, whether by a staple look of blue, gray, and brown (which 38r goes to great pains, unsolicited, to ensure everyone knows that he dislikes) or a complex TTO or AAS pattern extravaganza.

This does bring up an interesting point: how much does...or should...the difficulty of an attempt matter?

I'm tempted to say little to none, and it matters even less outside of SF. I think that the aesthetic appreciation of clothing is only marginally an intellectual exercise, whereas appreciating difficulty is definitely an intellectual endeavour.

One is not better dressed than another simply because he wears outfits that are more challenging to make work. He is better dressed only if he looks like he's dressed better.

On the blue-gray-brown note: I love it, clearly. It allows for a subtle exploration of texture and hue. It may be a very common look on SF, but I rarely see it in real life. Hell, it's rare enough for me to see someone do a decent job with an odd jacket and trou.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

If something looks good, it looks good. That's the only criterion of any importance. Doesn't matter how you got there, whether by a staple look of blue, gray, and brown (which 38r goes to great pains, unsolicited, to ensure everyone knows that he dislikes) or a complex TTO or AAS pattern extravaganza.

This does bring up an interesting point: how much does...or should...the difficulty of an attempt matter?

I'm tempted to say little to none, and it matters even less outside of SF. I think that the aesthetic appreciation of clothing is only marginally an intellectual exercise, whereas appreciating difficulty is definitely an intellectual endeavour.


One is not better dressed than another simply because he wears outfits that are more challenging to make work. He is better dressed only if he looks like he's dressed better.

On the blue-gray-brown note: I love it, clearly. It allows for a subtle exploration of texture and hue. It may be a very common look on SF, but I rarely see it in real life. Hell, it's rare enough for me to see someone do a decent job with an odd jacket and trou.

realest shit you ever wrote

post #72499 of 78717

x-post from the cbd sprezz friday challenge thread.

 

cbd is my jam...whenever I wear a suit it is cbd...though I must admit I've seen some great suits on here (especially those of member Butler) that I would be interested in getting into.

 

 

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So, um, PCK1, do you usually have your chair set up in front of a mirror? confused.gif
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Haha good call ;)

 

No I don't...but I figured it was appropriate for an italian aristocrat to be sitting in an ornate armchair...thus why I placed the chair in front of the mirror...also, the fabric of the arm chair is italian....so extra sprezz :p

post #72502 of 78717
Okay. Next time, drag that chair out to a beach, or on top of a hill, or into the forest, then take your picture. smile.gif
post #72503 of 78717

Your first comment was sufficient. Your second comment was unnecessary.

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He's just joshin' ya. And that would be a fucking sweet picture.
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So, um, PCK1, do you usually have your chair set up in front of a mirror? confused.gif

you mean you dont? puzzled.gif
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He's just joshin' ya. And that would be a fucking sweet picture.

this. shugz is a teddy bear.
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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post

+ one on 'none' . multiple patterns don't look any better per se, they're just easier to get wrong & take more experience and understanding to get rite. That's why they're associated with more advanced dressing, but all-solids roks can rok no less.

IMO there's no such thing as a 'beginner's fit'- it's really hard to do navy blazer/brown tie/grey pants well.

You had me until the last sentence.

I don't fault folks who prefer prefer the look of navy/brown/gray But let's be honest about what it is and why it has an undeniably universal appeal: It's simply combining neutrals.

And once you add pale blue shirt (neutral) and just about any pair of decent brown shoes (neutral), it's not much harder than writing it.

Now, if your point is that it's hard to do well on a regular basis without seeming repetitive and unimaginitive (especially), then I strongly agree. Or that you can screw it up with terrible fit or a shiny tie (i.e., texture), then again I agree, though that's true no matter what the colors are.

My fits are trending toward "cleaner" and simpler. Good/bad, better/worse, who knows; it just is. What I can't deny is a reticence that they've become more boring. Nor will I deny having orders of magnitude more respect for the folks who post consistently high quality fits without also consistently resorting to re-combining neutrals.

Again, I'm not calling anyone out -- to each his own, and it looks good for a reason. But don't tell me it's hard. I've set myself a goal of wearing every tie in my rotation before repeating. The 3 ties I dread the least are the brown twill and the 2 brown grens -- they will pair with damn near everything in my closet, and those mornings will, without question, be the easiest I have this year.

Said another way, it's been a very long time since I found myself envying a solid brown tie in someones fit, whereas I find myself envying your neats, Pliny, on a depressingly regular basis.
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I really don't understand why I don't see brown ties in real life. Besides the fact that I'm surrounded by folks in white shirts and black suits.
post #72508 of 78717
i love brown ties. cant get enough.
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Originally Posted by GMMcL View Post


You had me until the last sentence.

I don't fault folks who prefer prefer the look of navy/brown/gray But let's be honest about what it is and why it has an undeniably universal appeal: It's simply combining neutrals.

And once you add pale blue shirt (neutral) and just about any pair of decent brown shoes (neutral), it's not much harder than writing it.

Now, if your point is that it's hard to do well on a regular basis without seeming repetitive and unimaginitive (especially), then I strongly agree. Or that you can screw it up with terrible fit or a shiny tie (i.e., texture), then again I agree, though that's true no matter what the colors are. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

My fits are trending toward "cleaner" and simpler. Good/bad, better/worse, who knows; it just is. What I can't deny is a reticence that they've become more boring. Nor will I deny having orders of magnitude more respect for the folks who post consistently high quality fits without also consistently resorting to re-combining neutrals.

Again, I'm not calling anyone out -- to each his own, and it looks good for a reason. But don't tell me it's hard. I've set myself a goal of wearing every tie in my rotation before repeating. The 3 ties I dread the least are the brown twill and the 2 brown grens -- they will pair with damn near everything in my closet, and those mornings will, without question, be the easiest I have this year.

Said another way, it's been a very long time since I found myself envying a solid brown tie in someones fit, whereas I find myself envying your neats, Pliny, on a depressingly regular basis.

 

def all that -  look at the difference between say the C'horn or Stitches or Butch v many others in terms of doing plains well.  It's about texture and contrast + little stuff like collar width & space, knot, tie width, shoulder treatment, placement of gorge, buttoning point, the quarters, proportion between different elements of a fit.. & that's b4 u even start on fit itself.  There's literally hundreds of little things to get rite in solids.  

 

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I really don't understand why I don't see brown ties in real life. Besides the fact that I'm surrounded by folks in white shirts and black suits.

 

even noobs know u don't put a brown tie with the ubiquitoussquare-toed black shoes  :uhoh: that's why

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I like this collar on you a lot. I know you have trouble with collars because of your long neck, but for some reason, it seems less obvious here. I guess maybe it has a slight shortening effect as the collar points don't extend downward (shrinking the neck block)?

 

 

Blues, browns, and grays (Click to show)

Counting my navy, gray, brown and brown options made me happy.

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Navy fresco(ish) blazer(suit)

Navy birdseye blazer

Light blue linen blazer

Navy linen blazer

Navy linen-wool blazer

Mid blue linen wool blazer(suit)

Navy double breasted blazer

Mid blue windowpane tweed jacket

Dark blue herringbone cashmere blazer

 

Sadly, I'm not in quite as good a shape for gray pants

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Summerweight light gray wool

Mid gray flannel

Mid gray worsted

Taupe worsted

Light gray worsted

Mid gray with all but invisible windowpane

Brown-gray twill

Brown-gray mini-herringbone (resolves to solid)

 

Doing alright on brown ties.

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4 brown neats

2 brown knits

1 brown grenadine

3 brown wool

4 brown solid

 

Doing alright on brown shoes

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2 brown boots (lace up, chelsea)

2 suede (one monkstrap, the other oxford)

2 captoe oxfords

1 wingtip oxford

4 bluchers


Edited by Claghorn - 3/13/14 at 11:00pm
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