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Exactly.  When people make sarcastic comments about your being well-dressed, it is usually because you have made them feel insecure about their own dowdiness.  Keep it up.  And remember, even when you're going out without your girlfriend, you're always going out with you, and your dignity is worth something.

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NOBD crushes the jeans and SC combo.

Mimo, one way to say it would be agree to disagree, but I think the better way to say it is that you are wrong. It is unquestionable in my mind that there are combinations of sportcoats and jeans that look terrific. They just need to be done right and in the proper setting.
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I would be delighted to see one. :lurk:

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I have no doubt that you already have, you have just not reached the level where you can recognize it. Don't worry, you will get there one day.

:poke:
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Thanks for all thumbs yesterday, gents. A new high for me!

 

Lots of great looks today, especially Pliny, Pingson and Timo.

 

AAS - I really like that fit. Could use more patterns though.

 

Also, in case anyone is interested these Drake's wool/silk squares are on sale at ASW - http://www.asuitablewardrobe.net/tile-print-wool-silk-pocket-squares-3327.html

 

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^ good PSA, just picked up the brown/blue square. This is the third Drake's square I've bought on sale in the last 2 weeks. One from Barney's, one from NMWA, now this one. Not too shabby for under $140 total for all three.
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Just to be clear on the denim thing, I don't think it is totally without use:  seriously, were I riding a classic motorcycle and accompanying my jeans with a black biker jacket and some oiled (deliberately and otherwise) boots, or driving longhorns across West Texas, or smashing rocks in some kind of penal colony, there could be nothing more appropriate.  But my issue is this: in every other conceivable instance, there is a better choice.  Yes, you could wear jeans with a sports jacket - though not as scruffy as the item you dragged out yesterday - and it would look OK.  But coloured twills, cords, grey flannels or any number of other things, would still look sharper.  It's a bit like the whole collar-points-under-the-lapels thing: nobody in the real world is going to point a finger and say "hey, look at that dickhead with his insufficiently spread collar!" (well, unless you are unfortunate enough to walk past an incognito SF meet of especially judgemental and acerbic members, to which you were not invited).  And nobody is going to say "hey, that guy's wearing jeans with his sports jacket!" either, probably, as most will either consider you dressed up for wearing a jacket at all that isn't made of nylon with a baseball logo on the back, or achingly cool for your "street style".  

 

But this is, after all, the "Classic Menswear" section, and I think we should aspire to be the best-dressed we can possibly be.  In some ways, how we dress when we are relaxed says more about our standards than how we dress when we're making an effort:  everyone usually looks decent in black tie.  But catch a guy in the supermarket, and the one in a well-fitting lambswool sweater, wide wale cords and country brogues is just as relaxed and comfortable as the other guy in jogging pants and a sweatshirt.  But when the radio announces the zombie apocalypse or similar, for some reason everyone turns towards Mr country casual as he says "...right, this is what we need to do...."  Jeans are  the lowest common denominator - the shorthand of "casual" for pretty much everyone.  But as such they are so generic that they neither say "relaxed" nor even "rebellious" as James Dean might have thought.  They say lazy and unimaginative.  And also, I think, cautious.  An inverted kind of conservatism: "everyone gets jeans, right?".  Pah.  Better to be pointed at by intrigued children for wearing burnt orange chinos, than have someone's dad say "ha...yeah...501s...me too...worn nothing else since 1972...".  Iggy Pop gets a pass.  Nobody else.

 

Anyway, I digress: your jacket still doesn't fit.  It's too tight across the belly and chest, making the quarters pop up and stand straight out in front of you like belly antennae, and pulling your shoulders down.  There's no immediate solution to that, I fear.  Which is a pity as the jacket is nice.  You look kind of uncomfortable as a result of trying to stand in the most jacket accommodating way, so it's hard to say how your (perfectly decent) trousers fit.  And I really do like your shoes.

 I bet they would around here.

 

 BTW- I also think NOBD looks great when he posts his SC & jeans pics.

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I have no doubt that you already have, you have just not reached the level where you can recognize it. Don't worry, you will get there one day.

:poke:

 

Maybe they were right next to that nude emperor. ;)

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... and loafers?happy.gif

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I really do appreciate what you both, pB and mimo, have to say on jeans. I'm 25 years old and admittedly if I'm going to a bar with my guy friends, I wear jeans and loafers and a polo, not because I'm lazy but because it serves better in circumstance. My question to you knowledgeable men is this, since it seems you somewhat abhor jeans, what would be your styling choice for more casual outings unless you rarely do those then this question falls on deaf ears?

I don't really abhor jeans, I just think they aren't particularly stylish when matched with certain things. I mean call a spade a spade.

What would be my choice for more casual outings? Well, a suit. I just made a commitment to it a long time ago and that's what I wear. "Casual outing" pretty much doesn't exist in my world. Not that I don't do anything causal, I just feel more comfortable wearing a suit in more situations than most people. Says nothing about the character of me or anybody else, but it is just what I do. So, I guess to your question, wear chinos, wear cords, wear flannel trousers. Polos don't really exist in my world either. Just stupid apparel, where there are better choices out there. Again, not easy easy or cheap choices, but they are nonetheless choices. Just be comfortable with that choice you make and don't let context play as a rationalization for such a choice.
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maybe its all the cold medicine in me, but is nobd a who or a what?

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Crusty, I do like you with a dickie.  That's a nice mix of conservative-you and country-you. Professorial-you, perhaps?  

First off, you're increasing my vocabulary by referring to my bow tie as a "dickie". Being an American of a certain age, a "dickie", when I was a child/teenager, was, essentially, a turtleneck jersey (rollneck, in your parlance, I believe), minus most of the jersey, consisting of the neck, and rectangular flaps for front and back, worn to keep one's neck warm without the full insulation of a full jersey. As a form of attire, it has, happily, died a most obscure and ignominious death.

As for "professiorial you", as the spawn of two schoolteachers, and a New England WASP, I come by my owlishness quite naturally - it takes very little for me to get in touch with my inner math teacher (my father's profession).
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maybe its all the cold medicine in me, but is nobd a who or a what?

NOBD is most definitely a "who" - a Dutch gentleman with a marked predilection for sports jackets, jeans, and suede dress shoes, and with the figure (and the tailoring) to make the look work for him.
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I would be delighted to see one. lurker%5B1%5D.gif

http://www.voxsartoria.com/image/71866897179
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First off, you're increasing my vocabulary by referring to my bow tie as a "dickie". Being an American of a certain age, a "dickie", when I was a child/teenager, was, essentially, a turtleneck jersey (rollneck, in your parlance, I believe), minus most of the jersey, consisting of the neck, and rectangular flaps for front and back, worn to keep one's neck warm without the full insulation of a full jersey. As a form of attire, it has, happily, died a most obscure and ignominious death.

As for "professiorial you", as the spawn of two schoolteachers, and a New England WASP, I come by my owlishness quite naturally - it takes very little for me to get in touch with my inner math teacher (my father's profession).

I didn't know that technology for creating children from three individuals had been developed that early. Was lost or have you simply kept it secret for yourself until the time is right and you can reveal it to make trillions of dollars?
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This listing was shared by one of my friends on Facebook. Thoughts? nest.gif

http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/unspoken-suit-rules-every-man-should-know?bffb

My thoughts from lurking around here are:
#3 - Pattern yes, fabric not necessarily. Silk PS can go with a silk tie as long as they aren't overly matchy matchy.
#8 - I'm under the impression that black shoes are basically for very formal dress only, no? This makes it sound like brown is the exception, not the norm. I used to wear mostly black shoes but switched to almost exclusively brown after getting hooked on this forum.
#9 - Haven't seen a single non-tux single button peak lapel jacket here. Not one.
#16 - It looks like the picture of Kanye in #5 and possibly #17 is breaking this rule (among the other bad fit issues pointed out). #4 works with full Windsor due to McCain's fat head. However, I usually use four-in-hand over half Windsor. And even though I think I have a larger head, I rarely use full Windsor because I like how 4IH/HW looks asymmetrical and crooked? This picture breaks rule #27.
#24 - The picture used immediately breaks the rule in #22.
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