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I'm off to HKG and then SIN. See you in 2 weeks.

Mossgreen Luxire oxford
Olive green Vanda kimono silk square
Chocolate brown hober grenadine





Curved collar deets:





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@clapeyron
 that is the next fabric I would order from Luxire! Great combo!

@Pliny
 great combo!

@Pingson
 as usual, very nice!

@Claghorn
 dat jacket! icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif
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Grey, brown, blue, and white.
Great combo, love that

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new shoes new tie!







SC - Isaia for SFA
Shirt - Kamakura
Tie - Drakes for LuxeSwap
PS - Brooks Brothers
Pants - Brooks Brothers
Socks - Bresciani (No Vis)
Shoes - G&G Via Luxeswap[/quote]
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post #67922 of 78717
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For full disclosure I plan on wearing my 1978 Levi 501's in Cambodia in a few weeks. With Saint James tee shirts.

... and loafers?happy.gif

I'm not sure if I agree fully with your treatise PB, may take a moment to digest it all, but I certainly admire you for taking a forthright stance, especially on an issue which may run counter to the general consensus. I'm sick of seeing fawning praise for marginal outfits, we need more people to take a stand on issues they believe in or this board will continue on the road of back slapping concurrence toward further mediocrity. (Still some decent pics around too of course!)

Oh, and same to you Mimo - again, I might not agree with everything you set down, but admire the way in which you set it down.

I travel on the job quite a bit and I'm sick to death of seeing sweat pants in airports.

Had to renew my licence recently and saw men in their fifties out in public in the DMV wearing gym shorts, flip flops and ball caps. is that really the best you could do to meet the public?

Reminds me of Gerry Seinfeld admonishing George for his discovery of sweat pants: "George, when you wear sweat pants in public you're just telling the world that you've given up!"
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This is great! 

 

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Nawh man, just a regular carry on.  I didn't even check my luggage.  We took the train to four different cities so I had to pack lightly.  I wrote about what I packed here.  

Well, assuming you wore as much as possible, just the left over 7 shirts and 5 pairs of pants would be more than I could stuff in a carry on, not to mention 1 pair of shoes and 1 cardigan, whatever else I let out, all the accessories and (hopefully) five days worth of under ware and socks. Either your bag is Tardis-like or you stole you wife's baggage space. I'm figuring the latter, you cad! wink.gif
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as noted in SWD, the SC and jeans combo is probably the single most misunderstood combo. people tend to think its classic and easy, but its far from it. i think its almost always a fail with a tie, and even without a tie it needs to be just the right SC and just the right jeans. they both need to be on an equal level of formality, and i think a BD collar is required.

mimo, i think the tie is perfect with these pants, but yes, its on the bright side. its a drakes for LS and indeed its a wool challis. and i agree, it would be purrrfect for rue-dahls.

cleav, thanks!
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Just to be clear on the denim thing, I don't think it is totally without use:  seriously, were I riding a classic motorcycle and accompanying my jeans with a black biker jacket and some oiled (deliberately and otherwise) boots, or driving longhorns across West Texas, or smashing rocks in some kind of penal colony, there could be nothing more appropriate.  But my issue is this: in every other conceivable instance, there is a better choice.  Yes, you could wear jeans with a sports jacket - though not as scruffy as the item you dragged out yesterday - and it would look OK.  But coloured twills, cords, grey flannels or any number of other things, would still look sharper.  It's a bit like the whole collar-points-under-the-lapels thing: nobody in the real world is going to point a finger and say "hey, look at that dickhead with his insufficiently spread collar!" (well, unless you are unfortunate enough to walk past an incognito SF meet of especially judgemental and acerbic members, to which you were not invited).  And nobody is going to say "hey, that guy's wearing jeans with his sports jacket!" either, probably, as most will either consider you dressed up for wearing a jacket at all that isn't made of nylon with a baseball logo on the back, or achingly cool for your "street style".  

 

But this is, after all, the "Classic Menswear" section, and I think we should aspire to be the best-dressed we can possibly be.  In some ways, how we dress when we are relaxed says more about our standards than how we dress when we're making an effort:  everyone usually looks decent in black tie.  But catch a guy in the supermarket, and the one in a well-fitting lambswool sweater, wide wale cords and country brogues is just as relaxed and comfortable as the other guy in jogging pants and a sweatshirt.  But when the radio announces the zombie apocalypse or similar, for some reason everyone turns towards Mr country casual as he says "...right, this is what we need to do...."  Jeans are  the lowest common denominator - the shorthand of "casual" for pretty much everyone.  But as such they are so generic that they neither say "relaxed" nor even "rebellious" as James Dean might have thought.  They say lazy and unimaginative.  And also, I think, cautious.  An inverted kind of conservatism: "everyone gets jeans, right?".  Pah.  Better to be pointed at by intrigued children for wearing burnt orange chinos, than have someone's dad say "ha...yeah...501s...me too...worn nothing else since 1972...".  Iggy Pop gets a pass.  Nobody else.

 

Anyway, I digress: your jacket still doesn't fit.  It's too tight across the belly and chest, making the quarters pop up and stand straight out in front of you like belly antennae, and pulling your shoulders down.  There's no immediate solution to that, I fear.  Which is a pity as the jacket is nice.  You look kind of uncomfortable as a result of trying to stand in the most jacket accommodating way, so it's hard to say how your (perfectly decent) trousers fit.  And I really do like your shoes.

 

 

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I think jeans are one thing mimo and I agree on. I don't really like them dressed up. Always a better option. As far as looking the best we possibly can, me, personally, when I am not in a suit I look like a slob, admittedly. Then again I am rarely suitless, so in my humble opinion: I've earned it.

Jeans to me give the same perception as things like loafers, cardigans, etc. Essentially lazy ways of trying to look dressed up. I have said this in the past and I will say it again. When looking dressed up, or "stylish" if that is one in the same to you, people tend to do a) what is easy, and b) what is cheap. The whole wear a dress shirt with a tie doesn't look stylish to me. It looks lazy. They didn't want to spend the time to make their outfit remarkable, they did what was easy and passable to the majority of people's standards. Jeans are in the same vein in a "dressed up" way. It is easy, they require zero maintenance, they require very little effort relatively to choose. Loafers for the most part (and this opinion probably holds the least weight in this argument) is that they are also lazy. There are always better options to put on your feet in any situation, or outfit. Some argue they are perfect for the summer. Ok, whatever, put on any pair of derbies and you have elevated your look considerably so what if it is hot, you're still wearing leather shoes I doubt a better looking shoe, no matter how much more substantial is going to push you into heat stroke territory, nor is a loafer going to keep you from it.

 

I really do appreciate what you both, pB and mimo, have to say on jeans. I'm 25 years old and admittedly if I'm going to a bar with my guy friends, I wear jeans and loafers and a polo, not because I'm lazy but because it serves better in circumstance. My question to you knowledgeable men is this, since it seems you somewhat abhor jeans, what would be your styling choice for more casual outings unless you rarely do those then this question falls on deaf ears?

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and when I say because of circumstance I mean because my friends and I rarely cruise through drinking...we like to go hard after a long day on the NYC Trading Floors! (usually accounts for a spilled beer or 3)

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I really do appreciate what you both, pB and mimo, have to say on jeans. I'm 25 years old and admittedly if I'm going to a bar with my guy friends, I wear jeans and loafers and a polo, not because I'm lazy but because it serves better in circumstance. My question to you knowledgeable men is this, since it seems you somewhat abhor jeans, what would be your styling choice for more casual outings unless you rarely do those then this question falls on deaf ears?

 

I'm sure we all do casual.  We just define it differently.  As I live in a hot climate, a culture where I take my shoes off a lot, and like most people take my suit off after work, I wear exactly what you do most days of the week for at least some of the time: a polo, jeans and loafers.  I like my polos to fit, my jeans to be coloured (never denim, and frequently a lighter twill more like chinos), and my loafers are always worn with socks.  

 

So I'm sure I look as casual and relaxed as you do.  But I'm also sure that changing the denim jeans to a coloured twill - even if they're sometimes in a "jeans pattern" with five pockets etc - elevates the overall look from dull-perpetual-teenager, to gentleman-at-leisure.  And really, wear socks.  That I'm not even getting into right now!

 

Unless I'm exercising, that's as casual as I get, ever.  Jeans, T-shirt and slip on shoes are super comfortable and relaxed.  But which ones you choose matter a lot.  It seems to me you're half way there already - just trade up on the denim.

 

That said, regarding your second point: what to wear for a casual evening out, I'd say maybe add a jacket, possibly a proper shirt (button down is my preference without a tie), and keep your twills and loafers if you want to be more relaxed.  I'd also say drink less - you've nothing to prove and once you realise you can be an hilarious idiot on Diet Coke too, it will be a massive liberation.  But that took me longer than 25 years too, so I won't judge.

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Still lacking pose inspiration...

 

 

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 Maybe you could try the "Spoo"?

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as noted in SWD, the SC and jeans combo is probably the single most misunderstood combo. people tend to think its classic and easy, but its far from it. i think its almost always a fail with a tie, and even without a tie it needs to be just the right SC and just the right jeans. they both need to be on an equal level of formality, and i think a BD collar is required.

mimo, i think the tie is perfect with these pants, but yes, its on the bright side. its a drakes for LS and indeed its a wool challis. and i agree, it would be purrrfect for rue-dahls.

cleav, thanks!

A lot of people back home refer to this look as 'The Clarkson' named after Jeremy C of Top gear.

And the reference seems to be more one of disdain than admiration, as he seems to be regarded generally as an obnoxious gobshite (= blowhard in US English) so his dress sense is as unpopular as his personality.
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I'm sure we all do casual.  We just define it differently.  As I live in a hot climate, a culture where I take my shoes off a lot, and like most people take my suit off after work, I wear exactly what you do most days of the week for at least some of the time: a polo, jeans and loafers.  I like my polos to fit, my jeans to be coloured (never denim, and frequently a lighter twill more like chinos), and my loafers are always worn with socks.  

So I'm sure I look as casual and relaxed as you do.  But I'm also sure that changing the denim jeans to a coloured twill - even if they're sometimes in a "jeans pattern" with five pockets etc - elevates the overall look from dull-perpetual-teenager, to gentleman-at-leisure.  And really, wear socks.  That I'm not even getting into right now!

Unless I'm exercising, that's as casual as I get, ever.  Jeans, T-shirt and slip on shoes are super comfortable and relaxed.  But which ones you choose matter a lot.  It seems to me you're half way there already - just trade up on the denim.

That said, regarding your second point: what to wear for a casual evening out, I'd say maybe add a jacket, possibly a proper shirt (button down is my preference without a tie), and keep your twills and loafers if you want to be more relaxed.  I'd also say drink less - you've nothing to prove and once you realise you can be an hilarious idiot on Diet Coke too, it will be a massive liberation.  But that took me longer than 25 years too, so I won't judge.

Just playing Devil's advocate here Mimo, what do you think of NOBD? IMO he does an exemplary version of jeans and a sport jacket. Do you see anything to admire in his pics or do you maintain your position thta he would still look better in coloured twill strides rather than blu jeans?
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Strolling around Paris. New shoes, new shirt, new tie. Don't know why cuff is not showing, but length of suit and shirt is right.

 

 

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A lot of people back home refer to this look as 'The Clarkson' named after Jeremy C of Top gear.

And the reference seems to be more one of disdain than admiration, as he seems to be regarded generally as an obnoxious gobshite (= blowhard in US English) so his dress sense is as unpopular as his personality.

 

It's also because, like most examples, the jeans are scruffy faded denim, much more sloppy than the jacket as Stitchy says, and ill-fitting around his middle-aged girth as well.  Were he to choose, say, a rust-coloured twill of the same weight, a corduroy, chino or moleskin, and that fitted better, it would be a very different look.  James May is an awfully shabby dresser as well, and Hammond is consistently ridiculous.  Personalities aside.

 

I disagree with Stitchy that denim is ever really an appropriate accompaniment for a jacket.  In an attempt to be open-minded,  I can just about see a cotton corduroy number with patch pockets over a simple OCBD and clean indigo denim with a nice pair of chukkas.  But only just.  And never, ever, with a tie.  Just wrong.  But once again, I like that mental picture a lot better with coloured chinos in it.  Same old, same old... 

 

Edit:  just saw your second post.  I think NOBD is a fine fellow indeed, and he takes my ranting in good sport.  I suppose we've agreed to differ.  But predictably, I dislike it when he does it with blue denim, and think it works very well when he chooses a coloured twill instead - whether the style be jeans, chinos or something in between.

 

Just for completeness, I should add that the latter iGent phenomenon of cargo pants with a jacket is an abhorrent offence to the universal dignity of mankind, without exception.  Not that I feel strongly about it.

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My first wacky/controversial/ugly* outfit of the year. As usual, it won't be my last. :stirpot:

 

*delete as applicable

 

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I'm sure we all do casual.  We just define it differently.  As I live in a hot climate, a culture where I take my shoes off a lot, and like most people take my suit off after work, I wear exactly what you do most days of the week for at least some of the time: a polo, jeans and loafers.  I like my polos to fit, my jeans to be coloured (never denim, and frequently a lighter twill more like chinos), and my loafers are always worn with socks.  

 

So I'm sure I look as casual and relaxed as you do.  But I'm also sure that changing the denim jeans to a coloured twill - even if they're sometimes in a "jeans pattern" with five pockets etc - elevates the overall look from dull-perpetual-teenager, to gentleman-at-leisure.  And really, wear socks.  That I'm not even getting into right now!

 

Unless I'm exercising, that's as casual as I get, ever.  Jeans, T-shirt and slip on shoes are super comfortable and relaxed.  But which ones you choose matter a lot.  It seems to me you're half way there already - just trade up on the denim.

 

That said, regarding your second point: what to wear for a casual evening out, I'd say maybe add a jacket, possibly a proper shirt (button down is my preference without a tie), and keep your twills and loafers if you want to be more relaxed.  I'd also say drink less - you've nothing to prove and once you realise you can be an hilarious idiot on Diet Coke too, it will be a massive liberation.  But that took me longer than 25 years too, so I won't judge.

 

See if I'm going out for an evening with the girlfriend, I do it right I believe: Button down dress shirt, tie, SC, flannels with a nice pair of brogues...(i thank SF for teaching me the right way to dress for an evening out, and my girlfriend has definitely noticed) I'll be posting some pictures soon of my new suits I purchased this year. 

 

Have to say in a business casual work environment (aka when I'm not at my client site on the trading floor), I still wear suits and EVERY DAY! I get the question "Oh, what interview are you going to today?" As annoying as it is, I love to let the haters hate hahah :slayer:

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