Gentlemen, you two are probably the toughest critics on this thread, which is fine, as it helps to keep standards high.
Nevertheless, I'm going to counterbalance your negs on AAS on this occasion by stating that while I find his fits quirky, not very WAYWRN-PC, and occasionally way too busy, I really do admire the consistency of his style. He is one of the closest things we have here to a true dandy - and I mean that in the nicest sense of the term.
Anyway I'm relieved neither of you have turned your attention too closely to any of my own efforts. Possibly you just didn't know where to start. (Also, I haven't had time to post much recently.) I would be genuinely curious to know what does meet your approval in the way of classic men's style.
I only bother to comment on this thread if someone is mostly doing stuff right.
I get that he has much different requirements for what he wears day-to-day. I believe he's a teacher (as is my wife) and I realize that it's kinda a thing for teachers to wear bright colors and whatnot.
So most of the time, I don't comment on AAS's fits. He likes something I don't care for but he generally does it pretty well. I do think it's a little embarassing that a grown ass man is sometimes in all blackwatch eerthang but yeah...
To start, all of his stuff fits quite well. Which alone puts him in the upper echelon of this thread.
But the fit we're talking about
Originally Posted by AAS
Has a few - to my mind obvious - points against it. It no particular order--
- That tie is fugly. Large paisley is largely bad. Two different kinds of large paisley on one tie will always be on the failure side of things.
- You have a decidedly busy tie with a busy square. And that square doesn't coordinate well with anything else in that outfit.
- I'm not totally against horizontal striped shirts but this one is too large a stripe for that
- Even if the stripes were normal style, that shirt would still be too busy with that sort of tie.
This fit is really good (assuming he had to wear shoes like that for touring)-
Originally Posted by AAS
(assuming the pants are cuffed and not just folded over)
This would be great if it had one less layer. Either lose the puffy vest or the cardigan.
Cosigning all of Cantabrigian's comments there. The problem with AAS is his reluctance to accept that, regardless of his obsession with Black Watch, there's a clear and significant inverse relation between the amount of patterns he crams into one outfit and the amount of praise he gets.
I think he's talking about the shape of the jacket.
... and trousers. Two narrower pipes protruding from a wider one. Waist suppression and a bit of trouser tapering and the result looks excellent.
It would be silly to expect you to pay close attention to my posts, but if you're going to make categorical statements, they should at least be rooted in reality. I have suits with a range of fits. Some are actually too big for me, but I still wear them because I like them and I'm not swimming in them. As I come across suitable replacements in my current size, I'll replace them. Other suits just have a relaxed fit which I quite like occasionally. And then there are several which fit pretty much like today's suit. The pants today aren't so much tapered as just more slimly cut all the way up the leg. They're also less comfortable than the more generously cut pants. C'est la vie.
And, stitchy, I know you don't like 'em, but suspenders help ease some of the conflict between comfort and cut.
i have tried. they are just not for me.
Originally Posted by mktitsworth
You guys should have Chris (Despos) make some pants for you. Best of both worlds.
i hope to find this out some day.
Stitchy - what about your pants from Ed though?
they are sexy as hell, but also very close in the thigh. therefor, they are not optimally comfortable, but that was a choice i made.
if he was able to measure me in person im sure it could have been remedied a bit, but the simple fact is that i have very thick thighs and a slight bow where my legs angle in hard by my knee. the only true way to fix the comfort as far as i know is be to make sure the legs are wider than my thigh to to the point that even when i sit down its not tight, and then to balance the knee issue, the taper has to be minimum and the opening wider than i like. basically, baggier pants than would look optimally sexsay.