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That knot made me threw up peepwall[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post


It looked like a damn French braid. Way to take the harsh criticism like a man. Stick around and soak up the knowledge.

 

will do, is it just the look of it that the community here does not like or its the loyalty to the classic knots ?

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That knot made me threw up peepwall[1].gif

lool I hope the eldrige knot does not have that effect too. Im joking I wont post that up here

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Originally Posted by ananses3m View Post
 

 

will do, is it just the look of it that the community here does not like or its the loyalty to the classic knots ?

lool I hope the eldrige knot does not have that effect too. Im joking I wont post that up here

I would say it is both. The classic 4ih knot is for 90% of the shirt/tie combinations the best knot you can choose. Is the knot too small, try an other winding for the Prince-Albert-knot. In some special cases a half or full windsor can do the job also.

And the eldrige "knot" is the same as the trinidy one.

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@ananses3m

This a harsh thread for those not used to criticism. The good news, is this phase usually doesn't last long because either the poster quits posting, or conforms to the norms suggested.

Even then, the critique will come. And even if you wear a perfectly tailored and coordinated outfit and you look great in it, if it is a pedestrian brand, the compliments will be thru clenched teeth. Thank them anyway. Be gracious.

If you are chasing a fashion look, this is probably the wrong forum as trends aren't well received.

It would probably help you to look closely at the outfits that are praised and notice how long the sleeves are, how the jacket drapes, how the pants fit, how the jacket accentuates the wearers body, how do the shoulders fit.

Then look for patten, texture, color and how they are put together.

Learn about proportion, balance, construction, buttons, button holes etc.

for example, upr_crust here is an immaculate dresser with a magnificent eye for color and texture. If you check his posts, you will see that he always posts a collage of his ensemble "off body". It's uncanny how he has the perfect cuff links for every tie. Note the brands he wears. Always upper tier but he doesn't chase some recent designer to follow the current trend. He has a style that is timeless. Everything ALWAYS fits properly.

Also, note the ways he maintains his wardrobe. Never wears a shoe with a scuff. Or something with a loose thread or missing button.

Don't want to dress like a mature white dude? That's ok too, but color, balance and proportion, texture and contrast will apply equally to you.

Pick someone whose look you like and figure out why you like. Down to the way the shoes are laced. Ask questions. Pay compliments to guys who are doing something well.

You're a young guy with the potential to look great every day, but it has to be natural or become natural for you to pull off.

Be glad you're learning this now, because dressing well will always be noticed, just as dressing poorly will be. Particularly at the higher levels of management you encounter. I'm 55 and been coming here a year. It's hard when you realize that half what you thought you knew was wrong.

You're ahead of the game

Good luck on the journey.
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Originally Posted by ananses3m View Post
 

I have been lurking on this forum for a while, finally decided to join. Here goes my first post  

 

I'm sorry, but this is not even close to good, as we conceive it.

First, is this a black suit? If it is, this is how a black suit should be donned and how a jacket should fit you. I'm going to talk about the tie knot, but here is some reading for you on tie knots. About the tie itself, is it made of satin? It does looks like satin, which is not good on that color (black or midnight blue for satin neckties). The pocket square should be burned, especially when combined with that tie, and you should tuck the substitute more. I'm, also, going to advocate against dark shirts, especially for a newbie. The belt and the shoes are a good match, seeming to be tasteful (assuming that both are of good quality), but they're way out of what would be a coherent combination for them. Your watch and your glasses are way too large for you, try something more proportional.

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HF, your collar roll is fantastic.

Many articles of classic menswear are derived from sport. The OCBD is one of them.

in the late 19th century, British polo players used buttons (among other things - pins, for instance) on the tips of their dress shirts of oxford cloth (itself invented in Scotland and named after the prestigious university) to prevent them from slapping their faces ruddy whilst in full gallop. Upon seeing this, John Brooks went back to the good ol' US of A and began producing them in masse. A style wasn't born, but instead reached a wider audience, worn mostly while not riding a horse. A modern-day example would be, oh, say, basketball shoes. Very unfortunate.

Despite its roots in UK play, the OCBD became largely American and stayed so for decades; to this day they are largely unseen in English offices. The Italians, however, embraced the OCBD and, in the eyes of many, perfected it. How? By focusing on the very thing that defines it: the collar.

Returning to the original style and construction, a proper OCBD collar has long points (not wimpy collars resembling uniforms), is soft and unlined (unlike the starchy numbers worn in town), and pleasantly wrinkle-prone. The result is the characteristic OCBD collar roll - a charmingly curved shape, one that is animate, ever-changing, alive. Therein lies the relaxed appeal of something otherwise associated with formality.
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Originally Posted by jebarne View Post

@ananses3m

This a harsh thread for those not used to criticism. The good news, is this phase usually doesn't last long because either the poster quits posting, or conforms to the norms suggested.

Even then, the critique will come. And even if you wear a perfectly tailored and coordinated outfit and you look great in it, if it is a pedestrian brand, the compliments will be thru clenched teeth. Thank them anyway. Be gracious.

If you are chasing a fashion look, this is probably the wrong forum as trends aren't well received.

It would probably help you to look closely at the outfits that are praised and notice how long the sleeves are, how the jacket drapes, how the pants fit, how the jacket accentuates the wearers body, how do the shoulders fit.

Then look for patten, texture, color and how they are put together.

Learn about proportion, balance, construction, buttons, button holes etc.

for example, upr_crust here is an immaculate dresser with a magnificent eye for color and texture. If you check his posts, you will see that he always posts a collage of his ensemble "off body". It's uncanny how he has the perfect cuff links for every tie. Note the brands he wears. Always upper tier but he doesn't chase some recent designer to follow the current trend. He has a style that is timeless. Everything ALWAYS fits properly.

Also, note the ways he maintains his wardrobe. Never wears a shoe with a scuff. Or something with a loose thread or missing button.

Don't want to dress like a mature white dude? That's ok too, but color, balance and proportion, texture and contrast will apply equally to you.

Pick someone whose look you like and figure out why you like. Down to the way the shoes are laced. Ask questions. Pay compliments to guys who are doing something well.

You're a young guy with the potential to look great every day, but it has to be natural or become natural for you to pull off.

Be glad you're learning this now, because dressing well will always be noticed, just as dressing poorly will be. Particularly at the higher levels of management you encounter. I'm 55 and been coming here a year. It's hard when you realize that half what you thought you knew was wrong.

You're ahead of the game

Good luck on the journey.

Thanks a lot  jebarne that was a very good post I will definitely follow your advice.

 

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Originally Posted by Victor Elfo View Post
 

 

I'm sorry, but this is not even close to good, as we conceive it.

First, is this a black suit? If it is, this is how a black suit should be donned and how a jacket should fit you. I'm going to talk about the tie knot, but here is some reading for you on tie knots. About the tie itself, is it made of satin? It does looks like satin, which is not good on that color (black or midnight blue for satin neckties). The pocket square should be burned, especially when combined with that tie, and you should tuck the substitute more. I'm, also, going to advocate against dark shirts, especially for a newbie. The belt and the shoes are a good match, seeming to be tasteful (assuming that both are of good quality), but they're way out of what would be a coherent combination for them. Your watch and your glasses are way too large for you, try something more proportional.

Thanks Victor, the blazer is actually dark navy, I paired them with black pants. You guys are helping a lot thank you very much

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Originally Posted by ananses3m View Post

Thanks a lot  jebarne that was a very good post I will definitely follow your advice.

Thanks Victor, the blazer is actually dark navy, I paired them with black pants. You guys are helping a lot thank you very much

There are so many crap dressers out there, that with a bit of time, attention and money you can elevate yourself to a high percentile of sartorial elegance and - if this is your goal - be known among your mates or co workers as a snappy dresser, all WITHOUT ridiculous gimmicks like esoteric tie knots and hockey puck sized watches. This way people are looking at your accessories - tie and your watch, not the actual clothes you are wearing.

Anyone can go out and buy an ostentatious watch and tie their tie with an unconventional knot, but if you really want to dress well there's much more to it as jebarne suggests. Look at the picture posted of the fella in the black suit - impeccable fit, and no sign of any gimmicks.
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Had some awesome pancakes today.  :slayer:

 


 

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Originally Posted by ananses3m View Post

I have been lurking on this forum for a while, finally decided to join. Here goes my first post  

bro - from your username, i take it you are Ghanaian/with Ghanaian ancestry. I'm a Ghanaian too and this place has been great for learning. There is a lot to learn here. i can guarantee you will become a better dresser if you stick around with the right attitude.

More is less in most instances and it takes a while to hit that sweet spot. In some cases, you may be getting "great" feedback from those around you who don't know better (the facebook likes, the instagram loves, the oh you look greats etc) because a lot of people don't have a good concept of what it is to dress well in the real world. Don't take negative feedback here in the wrong vein, because generally people here want the best for you - even if they don't know you.

Stay stylin'
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Originally Posted by mrjester View Post
 

Clags - have you considered a higher collarband?

Yes, yes I have:satisfied:. Most of my shirts have an extra 2 cm on them to accommodate my love of half windsors. That shirt predates the change.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by jebarne View Post

@ananses3m

This a harsh thread for those not used to criticism. The good news, is this phase usually doesn't last long because either the poster quits posting, or conforms to the norms suggested.

Even then, the critique will come. And even if you wear a perfectly tailored and coordinated outfit and you look great in it, if it is a pedestrian brand, the compliments will be thru clenched teeth. Thank them anyway. Be gracious.

If you are chasing a fashion look, this is probably the wrong forum as trends aren't well received.

It would probably help you to look closely at the outfits that are praised and notice how long the sleeves are, how the jacket drapes, how the pants fit, how the jacket accentuates the wearers body, how do the shoulders fit.

Then look for patten, texture, color and how they are put together.

Learn about proportion, balance, construction, buttons, button holes etc.

for example, upr_crust here is an immaculate dresser with a magnificent eye for color and texture. If you check his posts, you will see that he always posts a collage of his ensemble "off body". It's uncanny how he has the perfect cuff links for every tie. Note the brands he wears. Always upper tier but he doesn't chase some recent designer to follow the current trend. He has a style that is timeless. Everything ALWAYS fits properly.

Also, note the ways he maintains his wardrobe. Never wears a shoe with a scuff. Or something with a loose thread or missing button.

Don't want to dress like a mature white dude? That's ok too, but color, balance and proportion, texture and contrast will apply equally to you.

Pick someone whose look you like and figure out why you like. Down to the way the shoes are laced. Ask questions. Pay compliments to guys who are doing something well.

You're a young guy with the potential to look great every day, but it has to be natural or become natural for you to pull off.

Be glad you're learning this now, because dressing well will always be noticed, just as dressing poorly will be. Particularly at the higher levels of management you encounter. I'm 55 and been coming here a year. It's hard when you realize that half what you thought you knew was wrong.

You're ahead of the game

Good luck on the journey.

 

It makes me happy that you are spending so much time to explain this for a beginner. Shows respect. And you point at important sides of learing how to become a good dresser, as well.

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