Honestly I have OCBDs without any discernible roll. When I wear those I always wear them tieless. Without a tie the roll, IMO, because unnecessary, so yeah I kind of agree with part of what you're saying. Anyway, as I said, it was just an aesthetic justification for why I think it looks better to have a roll when wearing a tie. I make no claims to understand what is "more correct" or anything like that. That shit just makes my head spin.
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9/6/13 at 7:55am