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You'd think a couple of the elements would work together, if only by accident, but that isn't the case.
It's a nice jacket; cream trousers goes well with it. A different shirt/square combo and it would have looked great. And it's also nice to see you taking pics outside of the bathroom!
I'm seriously green with envy; this is the only thing I miss in my home. Admittedly, I do use the wardrobe in my spare bedroom for my off-season clothes, but I can't devote the entire room to clothes.
So far, a relaxed Friday, after a rather busy week or so...
@Redevil: very bright and clanging outfit today.. geez how about (thinks...) a plain white shirt.. or... a plain light blue shirt..
however, each piece is good on it's own. Lovely SC, lovely tie, lovely shirt, lovely PS.
@clags: I agree with caustic man wrt your outfit today. SC is very iffy and you have so many other beautiful one's anyway so ....
@citan: Looking smart there Mister. I note the unusual 1 button SC
Thanks Derek; it's Luxire.
Ianiceman - you'll be relieved to know that the collar roll is actually a bit beefier than I intended/prefer because I goofed slightly on the collar band measurement I sent them. Should be sorted next time. It'll still have a generous roll, but not the superfat iteration of this shirt. Still, having a couple of extra fat shirts isn't bad! As for the appeal of superfat rolls like this one, I think it's either an American or Freudian thing, possibly both...
More details/pics here & here & here. I'm impressed with their fastidiousness in getting all the measurements/details exactly as requested, and also for ensuring virtually no fabric shrinkage after first wash.
I never understood it either, until I bought a Kamakura OCBD. Give it a try and see for yourself.
I like how collar roll looks with a tie, it gives an outfit a slightly more casual and relaxed look:
Here is my take on it. If you are going to wear a button down collar, the roll provides a certain aesthetic continuity to the shape of the tie knot, and the blade. Button down collars with no roll leave an unpleasant straight line cutting through what is otherwise a rounded knot, often obscuring it in the process. A standard spread collar, or at least a collar that lays under the jacket lapels leaves the knot with it's shape visible, and also provides a continuity of shape with the lapels, but a button down collar, by definition, cannot do this. Or, the ones that can do it are too widely spread and might as well not be button downs to begin with. In order to maintain proportions, some roll is desirable. The extremity of that roll, however, is up to the user.
Keep in mind that I have no basis for this theory other than my own brain and it is probably wrong. As always, remember that I dress horribly and no one should listen to me.
Well, I (almost) never wear ties with buttoned down collars; if I'm wearing a tie, I typically wear a spread collar. But when worn open, spread collars can become a bit flattened. The buttondown collar gives some life/focus back to the centre of the look that was lost with the absence of a tie; a generous roll to the collar adds to this central focus. But there's a balance to be struck; too fat a roll and it can be distracting (this one is right on the borderline of that, maybe a smidgen over it).
Honestly I have OCBDs without any discernible roll. When I wear those I always wear them tieless. Without a tie the roll, IMO, because unnecessary, so yeah I kind of agree with part of what you're saying. Anyway, as I said, it was just an aesthetic justification for why I think it looks better to have a roll when wearing a tie. I make no claims to understand what is "more correct" or anything like that. That shit just makes my head spin.