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not directed at me I know, but if I understand you rite I think a jacket in Fresco will work with cotton or linen trews.  In general,  textured jacket with less-textured trews works IMO.  It surprises me that textured loose weaves like Minnis Fresco isn't used for casual odd jackets more really.

 

Feel free to always join us. I've the exact opposite opinion about fresco odd coats. Don't get me wrong, it's good as a travel cloth, and it's suitable for business, but I think that it's not optimal for casual wear. While the fit bellow is fine, except for the necktie, imagine it one hour later, the trousers bagged in the knees and fully crumpled. Fresco seems too formal to be combined with cotton, IMO. What do you think?

 

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^^ off topic, but love vox's collar roll.
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I'm actually making a trip to Barney's this weekend so I'll be on the lookout for DEALS DEALS DEALS!!!

 

:rotflmao:i'm an idiot hahah Shows --> Shoes and I bought a pair of Allen Edmonds and Johnston & Murphy Cap Toes so I think I'm making some headway!

 

Find/locate a local good will or salvation army.  You would be amaze at the quality of items you find. I just acquired a AL Woodstock for $6 in very, very good condition.  I also just received a pair of Grenson tassel oxfords for $68.  And another pair J&M Murphy Aristocraft for $27.  I was also able to purchase a few suits, sport coats, and high end trousers.  So, there are items you can thrift to help build your wardrobe.

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not directed at me I know, but if I understand you rite I think a jacket in Fresco will work with cotton or linen trews.  In general,  textured jacket with less-textured trews works IMO.  It surprises me that textured loose weaves like Minnis Fresco isn't used for casual odd jackets more really.

Feel free to always join us. I've the exact opposite opinion about fresco odd coats. Don't get me wrong, it's good as a travel cloth, and it's suitable for business, but I think that it's not optimal for casual wear. While the fit bellow is fine, except for the necktie, imagine it one hour later, the trousers bagged in the knees and fully crumpled. Fresco seems too formal to be combined with cotton, IMO. What do you think?
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Surely you didn't mean to imply that Vox's trousers would ever bag or crumple.
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Feel free to always join us. I've the exact opposite opinion about fresco odd coats. Don't get me wrong, it's good as a travel cloth, and it's suitable for business, but I think that it's not optimal for casual wear. While the fit bellow is fine, except for the necktie, imagine it one hour later, the trousers bagged in the knees and fully crumpled. Fresco seems too formal to be combined with cotton, IMO. What do you think?

 

 

I live in hopsack, with trousers that sometimes wrinkle. I don't sweat it. The fresco I've seen seems to be the midpoint between hopsack and plain worsted, in terms of texture. It could be a little borderline.

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yes, coat is Belvest..

I could tell from the details - specifically the pick stitching and shape of the breast pocket. I have one in about that saturation, but blue. The angst I mentioned stems from the fact that I was wearing mine but did not get pics, though that's probably pretty obvious.
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Ede & Ravenscroft bespoke (3+ years old now). Very English is probably a good way to describe the cut/construction, yes.

"London's Oldest Tailor and Robe Maker?" I would never refer to them as "very English."
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Feel free to always join us. I've the exact opposite opinion about fresco odd coats. Don't get me wrong, it's good as a travel cloth, and it's suitable for business, but I think that it's not optimal for casual wear. While the fit bellow is fine, except for the necktie, imagine it one hour later, the trousers bagged in the knees and fully crumpled. Fresco seems too formal to be combined with cotton, IMO. What do you think?



I think an hour later Vox was probably drinking Martinis while contemplating making multiple bespoke shoe purchases at once. An hour later in this, after standing up and sitting down, the jacket has also probably acquired some wrinkling - given the pattern the right sleeve there.

Using Corbera in an example is difficult. You always have to check the subtlties - pockets, lapels, colors, etc. Earth tones as I understand it have a long history in english country wear with a more casual connotation. The three patch pocket lowers the formality level further, which works hand in hand with the notch lapels to create a distinctly informal feeling. While a flannel or tweed in such a color would probably certainly still be less formal, even in the lightest that probably wouldn't work well for the season (which looks like s/s given the flowers in the background). In such a case, a fresco is a nice open weave that can be light enough to serve the purpose. Given the details of the shirt, jacket, and shoes the pants seem to be appropriately formal when taken in the context of everything else. Overall though, my guess was is that he didn't care, wore it because he wanted to, and will smirk that it's being discussed.
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Hey if it's good enough for Vox..

 

i've got a choc Fresco made up  the same run of cloth as Vox's there (AFAIK) and I'd say it's a casual cloth-   not just because of the color and the patchies.  The loose textured Fresco weave  is pretty rustic IMO.  I can see in that pic that the jacket's quarters are slightly rumpled.   Goes with linen nicely, and I guess maybe heavier cottons?

 

Originally Posted by Victor Elfo View Post
 

 

Feel free to always join us. I've the exact opposite opinion about fresco odd coats. Don't get me wrong, it's good as a travel cloth, and it's suitable for business, but I think that it's not optimal for casual wear. While the fit bellow is fine, except for the necktie, imagine it one hour later, the trousers bagged in the knees and fully crumpled. Fresco seems too formal to be combined with cotton, IMO. What do you think?

 

 

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Originally Posted by mktitsworth View Post

Using Corbera in an example is difficult. You always have to check the subtlties - pockets, lapels, colors, etc. Earth tones as I understand it have a long history in english country wear with a more casual connotation. The three patch pocket lowers the formality level further, which works hand in hand with the notch lapels to create a distinctly informal feeling. While a flannel or tweed in such a color would probably certainly still be less formal, even in the lightest that probably wouldn't work well for the season (which looks like s/s given the flowers in the background). In such a case, a fresco is a nice open weave that can be light enough to serve the purpose. Given the details of the shirt, jacket, and shoes the pants seem to be appropriately formal when taken in the context of everything else. Overall though, my guess was is that he didn't care, wore it because he wanted to, and will smirk that it's being discussed.

 

Great analysis! 

I see that it's a bad choice for an example, as his stylistic choices were just on point for the intended formality. However, I wasn't trying to make a point about Vox's outfit, and if he cared or not doesn't matters for the topic being discussed, which is the cloth's formality.

So, if I got you opinion straight, fresco can be used for a casual coat, depending on the color and depending on how the coat is designed. Agreed, but how about those more suit-ish colors and designs? For example, navy blue sb with flapped pockets and notch lapels.

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Long time no post. I hope everyone is doing well. I have quite a backlog to get through here. I just began my clinical internship so I will be making some new purchases and posting fits again. I lost about 10 pounds (really more getting fitter than losing weight) so I had to get many of my jackets/pants altered. I took what I learned over the years so I am hoping the upcoming year of posts will be more interesting for everyone this time around. Looking forward to being an active member again!
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Long time no post. I hope everyone is doing well. I have quite a backlog to get through here. I just began my clinical internship so I will be making some new purchases and posting fits again. I lost about 10 pounds (really more getting fitter than losing weight) so I had to get many of my jackets/pants altered. I took what I learned over the years so I am hoping the upcoming year of posts will be more interesting for everyone this time around. Looking forward to being an active member again!

 

great! i always liked your fits 

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great! i always liked your fits 

Well thank you, I appreciate that but I still feel like over the years I have still not advanced in my knowledge of proper fit and coordination. Case in point, today, I never really felt the shoulders on any of my jackets fit, especially considering my somewhat odd body shape (I have a wider chest and somewhat narrow shoulders in comparison and a narrow waist, makes for odd sizing).

Anyway, thought I would post this, shirt is light blue stripe. I will find a better place to take pictures in the morning, I swear!

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Great analysis! 
I see that it's a bad choice for an example, as his stylistic choices were just on point for the intended formality. However, I wasn't trying to make a point about Vox's outfit, and if he cared or not doesn't matters for the topic being discussed, which is the cloth's formality.
So, if I got you opinion straight, fresco can be used for a casual coat, depending on the color and depending on how the coat is designed. Agreed, but how about those more suit-ish colors and designs? For example, navy blue sb with flapped pockets and notch lapels.

I know whether Vox care's or not is irrelevant - the statement was supposed to be flippant, dry, and mildly humorous.

I'm sure that there are stylistic choices (color, pockets, lapels) which lend themselves more towards suiting than Jacketing, but I would imagine those get pulled into a larger conversation about fabric formalities. However, from what I know the general consesnus is that fresco blurs the line even in this case. For example, see the definition of the blazer suit, which is a navy fresco suit where the jacket is styled suitably casually to be able to wear as a separate.
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^^ Citan- Hard to tell a lot without seeing the button point, and the size of your head.  If you relax your waists a bit you might not have that prob of shoulders looking too large in proportion to the rest (if I understand what you're getting at.

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^^ Citan- Hard to tell a lot without seeing the button point, and the size of your head.  If you relax your waists a bit you might not have that prob of shoulders looking too large in proportion to the rest (if I understand what you're getting at.

The shoulders look extreme because I think they are just too big in relation to the rest of my body. The jacket was taken in quite a bit and is still rather loose, it is a 42. The 40 I tried was bowing out in the lapels. So yeah, in a tough spot sometimes when it comes to sizing and unfortunately I cannot afford bespoke at this point in my life.
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